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  • kdfwagen
    Advanced Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 100

    #1

    325e No spark or fuel

    I am going to be buying a 325e for $500. It has 158k actual miles but will not start. The car was parked by the previous owner and was running at the time. However, when she went to start it 1 month later it would not start up at all.

    The bmw will crank over just fine. However I disconnected a couple fuel lines and no fuel ran out when I cranked it over. I tried sparking starting fluid through the throttle body before and during cranking and no dice. I checked for spark at the end of the plug wires and nothing while jumping and cranking. I got a reading from the coils terminals of ~24.5 volts while the key was turned to the on position. The fuses seemed to be good besides #20 which I believe is for ac/heat. The secondary fuel pump SEEMS to be dead because there is no humming when you turn the key to the on position or while cranking.

    Any advice would be great.

    Last edited by kdfwagen; 11-11-2010, 06:48 AM.
    -84 325e 158k
    -06 suzuki drz 400sm
  • jlevie
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 13530

    #2
    This will most likely be:

    No timing data to the DME (bad CPS)
    No power to the DME (bad main relay or wiring fault)
    Bad DME
    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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    • kdfwagen
      Advanced Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 100

      #3
      Originally posted by jlevie
      This will most likely be:

      No timing data to the DME (bad CPS)
      No power to the DME (bad main relay or wiring fault)
      Bad DME
      Where can I find the CPS sensor and how hard is it to replace?

      How expensive are DME's? Could I only use a DME from a 325e?

      thanks.
      -84 325e 158k
      -06 suzuki drz 400sm

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      • jlevie
        R3V OG
        • Nov 2006
        • 13530

        #4
        On this car the CPS (and cylinder ID sensor) are mounted in the bell housing. Replacement of the CPS is pretty easy. But start by making sure that the DME is getting power and that the main relay is good.

        A used DME generally costs no more than $50 and you must one meant for an M20B27 (ETA) engine.
        The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
        Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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        • kdfwagen
          Advanced Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 100

          #5
          How can I check to see if the DME is getting power? Also, which relay is the main one? Is it one of the 3 under that little black box near the air box?
          -84 325e 158k
          -06 suzuki drz 400sm

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          • kdfwagen
            Advanced Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 100

            #6
            anyone?
            -84 325e 158k
            -06 suzuki drz 400sm

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            • Dolmangar
              Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 95

              #7
              Just to be sure (and I'm not trying to be an ass) have you verified that it has enough gas in the tank? You wouldn't be the first person to start working on a car only to find out that there wasn't any gas.

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              • kdfwagen
                Advanced Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 100

                #8
                Originally posted by Dolmangar
                Just to be sure (and I'm not trying to be an ass) have you verified that it has enough gas in the tank? You wouldn't be the first person to start working on a car only to find out that there wasn't any gas.
                Well the gauge reads over a half tank, However I havent tried draining the tank.
                -84 325e 158k
                -06 suzuki drz 400sm

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                • kdfwagen
                  Advanced Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 100

                  #9
                  so how do you test if the DME is getting power?
                  -84 325e 158k
                  -06 suzuki drz 400sm

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                  • jlevie
                    R3V OG
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 13530

                    #10
                    With a meter or test light at the DME pins.
                    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                    • kdfwagen
                      Advanced Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 100

                      #11
                      I cleaned off the CPS sensor and that didn't seem to do the trick. I guess it might just be bad.
                      Last edited by kdfwagen; 01-07-2011, 08:50 AM.
                      -84 325e 158k
                      -06 suzuki drz 400sm

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                      • diggity_1031
                        Noobie
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 33

                        #12
                        bad relay?

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                        • kdfwagen
                          Advanced Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 100

                          #13
                          fixed this. ecu was stolen out of the car haha.
                          -84 325e 158k
                          -06 suzuki drz 400sm

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