Subframe/RTAB question.. paying too much?

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  • Nairb
    E30 Fanatic
    • Apr 2010
    • 1207

    #1

    Subframe/RTAB question.. paying too much?

    Ok, so I definitely need new subframe bushings, and I've heard that it is such a PITA that you might as well take it to a shop and do it.

    I am wanting to use AKG subframe, and probably Powerflex RTAB's. Of course, I might as well replace some common wear item's when it's all being replaced.. exhaust hangers, diff mount, CV boot, and turns out I need a new rear pinion seal.

    So, I took it to a local mechanic today and he quoted me "about $600" for all of the work! That is with no parts.. just labor. Is this crazy, or what?

    I don't really want to do the subframe by myself, and from what I've read it's a serious bitch to do.

    However, he is probably the cheapest mechanic in the area who can do work like this.

    What should I do?
    My 1991 318is Progression Thread
  • KenC
    King of Kegstands
    • Oct 2003
    • 14396

    #2
    That's a good deal for labor on all that. It's not a quick job.

    For a DIY, getting the old bushings out is really the only PITA.
    Originally posted by Gruelius
    and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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    • Nairb
      E30 Fanatic
      • Apr 2010
      • 1207

      #3
      Yeah I know how difficult it is, but I was reading around and some people are saying they paid like $450 with parts or $300 for labor.. so I am just like "holy shit, this guy usually has really good prices.."

      I'm willing to pay, but honestly I don't like other people working on my car and I definitely don't like to feel like I'm getting ripped off.
      My 1991 318is Progression Thread

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      • KenC
        King of Kegstands
        • Oct 2003
        • 14396

        #4
        Was that quote just for the RSBs and TABs? Or for all the other stuff you listed?
        Originally posted by Gruelius
        and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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        • fronton
          E30 Fanatic
          • Oct 2009
          • 1262

          #5
          if you dont have an engine crane, take him up on the $600. very fair price.

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          • KenC
            King of Kegstands
            • Oct 2003
            • 14396

            #6
            Engine crane??
            Originally posted by Gruelius
            and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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            • fronton
              E30 Fanatic
              • Oct 2009
              • 1262

              #7
              how else are you going to hold an engine in place while you swap subframe bushings?

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              • StereoInstaller1
                GAS
                • Jul 2004
                • 22679

                #8
                Originally posted by fronton
                how else are you going to hold an engine in place while you swap subframe bushings?
                You have no clue what you are talking about.

                The front has no subframe bushings.

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                • downernsp
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1932

                  #9
                  That is fair. Yeah others might have gotten a better deal,but hey that is just how shit is. Learn and DIY that wat you can avoid labor.
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                  • Nairb
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1207

                    #10
                    Originally posted by KenC
                    Was that quote just for the RSBs and TABs? Or for all the other stuff you listed?

                    RSB, diff mount, RTAB, exhaust hangers, CV boots.. most of the common wear items back there..
                    My 1991 318is Progression Thread

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                    • KenC
                      King of Kegstands
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 14396

                      #11
                      Thats a good price for labor then.
                      Originally posted by Gruelius
                      and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                      • skurvydog
                        Noobie
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 3

                        #12
                        I'm in the process of doing this now, i have everything off just waiting for parts now. It wasn't that bad and I'm a complete noob. You can probably handle it in a timely manner.

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                        • Kershaw
                          R3V OG
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 11822

                          #13
                          that's a really good price for labor. i have done the RSBs on e30s TWICE. it is an absolute pain in the ass and it took me all day. both times.

                          the bmw shop my brother used to work at wouldnt even do RSBs because the labor cost and what they could plausibly charge the customer did not work in their favor. they would flat out tell customers to use someone else for that.
                          AWD > RWD

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                          • bzboardz
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • May 2009
                            • 1096

                            #14
                            if your thinking about DIY what about buying an already clean rear subframe(with camber/toe adjustments if you need them)

                            sounds like a good price, i think bushings from powerflex cost 300$ alone
                            Last edited by bzboardz; 01-25-2011, 06:37 PM.

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                            • HarryPotter
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 3642

                              #15
                              That's not really a bad price for all that you've mentioned.


                              "Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."

                              John F. Kennedy

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