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  • drifty30
    Advanced Member
    • May 2004
    • 135

    #1

    manual steering rack?

    anyone have one in their car? did any E30 ever have them? has anyone made one from another car work?
  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34839

    #2
    why? they have an even slower turn ratio, (4.4 vs 4.0 with the power rack) and require a lot more effort at low speed. A real upgrade would be an M3 rack or one of the E36 racks. (3.5 on the E30 M3 and I think 3.0 on the E36 M3).
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    Bimmerlabs

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    • Old'n'Slow
      E30 Addict
      • Nov 2003
      • 436

      #3
      I have one. I love it. Oddly, it feels a hell of a lot tighter and quicker than the stock power assisted 20.5:1 rack. It's not THAT much slower at 21.5:1! Parking lots aren't bad- it's not an issue unless you're turning the wheels at a dead stop. At highway speeds there is no numb on-center feel like the power racks have. The car goes exactly where you point it. I've driven the M3 rack and also a couple of E36 conversions. If you must have power steering, they're the way to go. But I rather enjoy the purity of the feedback at the wheel rim. No leaks, either!

      I got mine brand new at the dealer for <$300. Apparently there are about 90+ left in some warehouse in Dresden!

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      • drifty30
        Advanced Member
        • May 2004
        • 135

        #4
        what model/ year bmw was it out of? did you need new linkages all around? pics?

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        • Borat
          E30 Addict
          • Jan 2005
          • 494

          #5
          I have one as well, Love it. no problems at all parking. Anyone who tells you so really needs to harden up, i looking for a smaller steering wheel so will be interesting to see what its like to park then. The slow rack is a pain sometimes but as its been said its only marginally slower than power racks. They come in all sorts of cars, mine out of a euro M10 318i, i've also seen a fully optioned euro 320i that had one. Lots of people who race over here have them.

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          • mikeedler
            R3V OG
            • Feb 2004
            • 6707

            #6
            The non power racks came on the majority of the euro cars here in germany. for every p/s car I see, there are at least 20 non p/s cars. all years.

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            • drifty30
              Advanced Member
              • May 2004
              • 135

              #7
              does anyone have a picture of their manual rack? I'd love to see if it will solve my problem

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              • ACHTUNG
                R3VLimited
                • May 2005
                • 2397

                #8
                sorry for my ignorance:

                I was going to remove my power assisted steering pump on my 89 325i. Can I do this or do I need to get a manual rack?
                1989 US E30 Cammed S52
                Under Construction: 1983 Euro E28 Cammed LQ9/LS3 Heads/Jakeb E28 LSx Kit

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                • 318driver
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 1714

                  #9
                  I have a manuel rack on my 318i and i dont like it much, I think there is something wrong with it tho. The wheel does not snap back toward the return position fast at all, I actually have to pull it back myself. Anyone know what the cause of this could be. One of my tierod boots is busted but could it be anything else?
                  90 325is
                  IE stage 3s and refeshed m20....

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                  • drifty30
                    Advanced Member
                    • May 2004
                    • 135

                    #10
                    Originally posted by drifty30
                    does anyone have a picture of their manual rack? I'd love to see if it will solve my problem
                    before this thread gets too much more hijacked... :roll:

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                    • redhatpat
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 656

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 318driver
                      I have a manuel rack on my 318i and i dont like it much, I think there is something wrong with it tho. The wheel does not snap back toward the return position fast at all, I actually have to pull it back myself. Anyone know what the cause of this could be. One of my tierod boots is busted but could it be anything else?
                      Sounds like alignment. You need more caster. It will increase steering effort, but also return the wheel to center more.

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                      • Old'n'Slow
                        E30 Addict
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 436

                        #12
                        Originally posted by redhatpat
                        Originally posted by 318driver
                        I have a manuel rack on my 318i and i dont like it much, I think there is something wrong with it tho. The wheel does not snap back toward the return position fast at all, I actually have to pull it back myself. Anyone know what the cause of this could be. One of my tierod boots is busted but could it be anything else?
                        Sounds like alignment. You need more caster. It will increase steering effort, but also return the wheel to center more.
                        Can't set castor or camber on these cars. I'd say it's far more likely your toe is way off. Or, the rack itself is bent. I've seen that happen. Makes for heavy steering and no return. These cars will drive OK even when the toe is fairly whacked, but the steering will feel really weird.

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                        • Old'n'Slow
                          E30 Addict
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 436

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ACHTUNG
                          sorry for my ignorance:

                          I was going to remove my power assisted steering pump on my 89 325i. Can I do this or do I need to get a manual rack?
                          You can just take the belt off and try it to see if you like it. It is not the same feeling as a real manual rack, though. Unless you're trying to save weight, I'd leave the system closed-in other words, leave the pump in place even if there is no belt.

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                          • mikeedler
                            R3V OG
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 6707

                            #14
                            i dont have any pictures, but it looks really similar to the power rack. the only other part you would need to replace is the steering column shaft that connects to the rack(small shaft with a few u-joints on it.)

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