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  • Helltime
    Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 96

    #1

    motometer to vdo?

    Ok, i have searched on here and i am seeing conflicting info so i will ask here.
    I have an 85 325e, has the stock motometer cluster...i bought a vdo unit from an I car i think it was an 89...will it work in my 85 without modification?
    1990 325i 5spd
    09 135i 6spd m-sport package
  • Exodus_2pt0
    R3V Elite
    • Dec 2011
    • 5943

    #2
    Contact B15u on these forums.

    I just sold him a motometer ETA cluster that we thought would work on his VDO car. Maybe you guys could swap clusters out.
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    Originally posted by MrBurgundy
    Anyways, mustangs are gay and mini vans are faster than your car, you just have to deal with that.

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    • Helltime
      Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 96

      #3
      Originally posted by Exodus_2pt0
      Contact B15u on these forums.

      I just sold him a motometer ETA cluster that we thought would work on his VDO car. Maybe you guys could swap clusters out.
      Not interested at this time due to the fact i don't know if everything works on it and i don't want to rip anyone off. So it won't work? When i searched i kept getting mixed answers. Anybody here done an ETA motometer cluster to VDO cluster from an I car and had everything work?
      1990 325i 5spd
      09 135i 6spd m-sport package

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      • Exodus_2pt0
        R3V Elite
        • Dec 2011
        • 5943

        #4
        I heard that it will work....

        So we decided to go ahead and make the deal, however the motronic I pulled was untested as well. So it COULD be that the cluster is bad. Or they just arent compatible. Need to find a known good unit to try.
        No E30 Club
        Originally posted by MrBurgundy
        Anyways, mustangs are gay and mini vans are faster than your car, you just have to deal with that.

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        • mrgraphics
          Wrencher
          • Dec 2011
          • 221

          #5
          It's a mixed bag depending on the year I've found. I have an 86 VDO cluster and picked up a motometer speedometer from an 89 (I believe) - no housings, just the actual speedometer module. Seemed like it would work, but the location where the pins actually go into the cluster were different. It was about a half inch higher on the motometer's speedometer circuit board.

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          • Helltime
            Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 96

            #6
            I guess i will see how hard it is to get this cluster out and report my findings (when ever i have the chance to do so). Can't be too hard to get out.
            1990 325i 5spd
            09 135i 6spd m-sport package

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            • bastianshaw
              R3VLimited
              • Jan 2007
              • 2210

              #7
              lots of disinfo on this topic
              from what I understand; they are direct swaps IF the SI lights are the same eg late and early just try it

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              • Varinn
                Mod Crazy
                • Apr 2010
                • 780

                #8
                There are a few things that are different between the stules. Motometer and VDO are entirely different internally.

                A VDO cluster and Motometer cluster are (as a complete unit) interchangeable. Early and late are (as complete units) interchangeable
                Early and late are interchangeable as individual parts EXCEPT for the SI boards/Casings AND they must be all VDO, or all Motometer pieces.
                Early model coding plugs are interchangeabl between both motometer and VDO clusters as long as they are early style.
                Late model coding plugs are interchangeabl between both motometer and VDO clusters as long as they are late style.

                I have swapped many clusters, starting with a VDO '91 318is cluster I put in an '84 325e VDO tach and '88 325e coding plug, installed into an '84 325e. I then picked up a '91 Motometer 325i cluster for my b25 swap and have used it in a VDO original '87 325i, but replaced it with a VDO cluster from another 1991 318is that I dropped a motometer 325i coding plug into. In other various forays I have swapped early and late VDO speedos, and 55L/65L fuel gauges when testing clusters in cars using different tank sizes
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                • Helltime
                  Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 96

                  #9
                  It works! everything but the odometer (suprise surpise) works including my econometer. I remember reading something about service lights/inspection lights have to be the same..well mine are not and it all works good.
                  1990 325i 5spd
                  09 135i 6spd m-sport package

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                  • Helltime
                    Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 96

                    #10
                    oh and i noticed my clutch master cylinder is leaking..hurray =/
                    1990 325i 5spd
                    09 135i 6spd m-sport package

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                    • reelizmpro
                      R3V OG
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 9464

                      #11
                      It's because you swapped the entire cluster. However, since your 85 cluster uses a plastic peg instead of a chip your tach will be off. You need an 86-87 chip (coded plug on SI board) from an ETA cluster.
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                      • Helltime
                        Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 96

                        #12
                        Originally posted by reelizmpro
                        It's because you swapped the entire cluster. However, since your 85 cluster uses a plastic peg instead of a chip your tach will be off. You need an 86-87 chip (coded plug on SI board) from an ETA cluster.
                        I did notice it was off slightly...but not more than 200-300rpm. At idle is close to the same, and now my rev limiter kicks in at just a shade under 5k rpm on this tach...so its close enough for me. But i will keep that in mind when i go to replace the odometer gears this spring.
                        1990 325i 5spd
                        09 135i 6spd m-sport package

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                        • Frog
                          E30 Modder
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 980

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Varinn
                          There are a few things that are different between the stules. Motometer and VDO are entirely different internally.

                          A VDO cluster and Motometer cluster are (as a complete unit) interchangeable. Early and late are (as complete units) interchangeable
                          Early and late are interchangeable as individual parts EXCEPT for the SI boards/Casings AND they must be all VDO, or all Motometer pieces.
                          Early model coding plugs are interchangeabl between both motometer and VDO clusters as long as they are early style.
                          Late model coding plugs are interchangeabl between both motometer and VDO clusters as long as they are late style.

                          I have swapped many clusters, starting with a VDO '91 318is cluster I put in an '84 325e VDO tach and '88 325e coding plug, installed into an '84 325e. I then picked up a '91 Motometer 325i cluster for my b25 swap and have used it in a VDO original '87 325i, but replaced it with a VDO cluster from another 1991 318is that I dropped a motometer 325i coding plug into. In other various forays I have swapped early and late VDO speedos, and 55L/65L fuel gauges when testing clusters in cars using different tank sizes
                          So I can use a late model 325i VDO cluster in a 1984 which originally had a motometer.
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                          • AndrewBird
                            The Mad Scientist
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 11897

                            #14
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