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  • danalyse
    Advanced Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 153

    #1

    Help...my car will not idle... continued.

    Did a top end job about 3K ago and it was running great. A couple hundred miles ago it developed a very slight rough idle. In the past few miles things have deteriorated rapidly to the point were it will not idle at all. The OBDI shows no fault codes 1444. My under the hood Peake diagnostic reader seems to says it is the Lamda sensor but the check engine light is not on. Any ideas...please.
    Last edited by danalyse; 08-16-2012, 04:10 AM.
  • XXXSkyGuyXXX
    Noobie
    • Aug 2012
    • 7

    #2
    is it a vacuum leak?

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    • danalyse
      Advanced Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 153

      #3
      I thought about a vacuum leak. For the heck of it I replaced the air filter and it got worse.any suggestions what I should look at? Thanks.

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      • XXXSkyGuyXXX
        Noobie
        • Aug 2012
        • 7

        #4
        if U'r not sure U can run a smoke test and see if U do have a leak or not

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        • XXXSkyGuyXXX
          Noobie
          • Aug 2012
          • 7

          #5
          do U have the is or es?

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          • danalyse
            Advanced Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 153

            #6
            I think it is a plain old. A cabrio marked M-Technic.

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            • Jaxx_
              E30 Mastermind
              • Dec 2009
              • 1880

              #7
              spark plugs look okay?
              '84 318i M10B18 147- Safari Beige
              NA: 93whp/90ftlbs, MS2E w/ LC, 2-Step
              Turbo: 221whp/214ftlbs, MS3x flex @ 17psi

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              • dnguyen1963
                R3VLimited
                • Nov 2011
                • 2648

                #8
                Rough idles equal vacuum leaks most of the time. Perform a smoke test.

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                • jlevie
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 13530

                  #9
                  Yep, have a smoke test run.
                  The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                  Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                  • danalyse
                    Advanced Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 153

                    #10
                    Idle problem continues...help!

                    Replaced boot between throttle body and airflow unit as it had some dry rot but no improvement. I can start the car and get the RPM up to the mid teens to keep it running but then the RPM slides down to around 500 RPM and eventually will be rough and stall. The consensus seems to say vacuum leak...anything specific to look at. Any chance a bad oxygen sensor can cause this as my under the hood diagnostic tool says that is a problem but the OBDI system does not.

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                    • jlevie
                      R3V OG
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 13530

                      #11
                      If the engine won't idle when cold, the O2 sensor can't be the cause. At that point the DME is in open loop mode and not using the O2 sensor data.

                      As far as intake leaks, the specific things to look at are where you see smoke leak out during a smoke test.
                      The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                      Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                      • danalyse
                        Advanced Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 153

                        #12
                        Is my idle problem solved?

                        Borrowed a fuel pressure tester from the auto parts store. Placed a T in the line to the fuel rail and cranked the engine. The gauge does not move. Seems like a bad fuel pump? What do you think?

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                        • Jaxx_
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 1880

                          #13
                          if you're sure you got the right fuel line, yes.

                          Does the fuel pump whine at all?
                          '84 318i M10B18 147- Safari Beige
                          NA: 93whp/90ftlbs, MS2E w/ LC, 2-Step
                          Turbo: 221whp/214ftlbs, MS3x flex @ 17psi

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                          • jlevie
                            R3V OG
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 13530

                            #14
                            Are you sure you have the gauge on the supply side? That is the hose that connects directly to the rail. The hose that connects to the FPR is the return line and will be a zero pressure.

                            If you have zero pressure in the rail, the engine won't fire or run at all.
                            The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                            Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                            • danalyse
                              Advanced Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 153

                              #15
                              Fuel pressure saga continued.

                              Clearly hooked up to the rail. I'm assuming there is a little pressure but it is quickly bled off when starting the car which only runs for a few seconds. Can't hear anything running from under the rear seat. Should I pull the rear seat and listen. Should I hear the pump when the car is not running? Is there more than one pump? I have replaced the fuel filter within the past 3K.

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