Help!!! No power at fuel pump!

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  • Ga325is
    Noobie
    • Aug 2013
    • 23

    #1

    Help!!! No power at fuel pump!

    Hey guys thanks in advance.

    1987 325is.

    Had power at pump last weekend but no fuel pump operation. So I replaced the pump today but now I have no power at the pump. I have swapped the relay with a known good one and also checked fuse 11. What else is there? I have no pressure at the fuel rail and no pressure at the filter.

    Really need to get this running ASAP!!!
  • vpilarrt
    R3VLimited
    • Jun 2006
    • 2096

    #2
    Fuel pump doesn't normally get power unless the engine is turning over. However you can jump the relay to make it run otherwise.

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    • Ga325is
      Noobie
      • Aug 2013
      • 23

      #3
      ok so i jumpped the relay and the fuel pump comes on. Now to figure out why the relay is not engaging... Guess i will have to try another relay. What other reason would cause the relay not to engage?

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      • vpilarrt
        R3VLimited
        • Jun 2006
        • 2096

        #4
        Next step is to check for power at the relay pins and continuity of wires:

        Pin 86 - 12V at Start and Run (key On)
        Pin 30 - 12V at all times
        Pin 85 - signal from ECU Pin 3
        Pin 87 - connects to fuel pumps, you have already verified this since the fuel pumps run when the relay is jumped

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        • Ga325is
          Noobie
          • Aug 2013
          • 23

          #5
          Ok heres what I have so far

          Pin 86 - powered with key in run (verified with test light)
          Pin 30 - powered all the time (verified with test light)
          Pin 85 - how should I verify this? Will there be voltage present at all times?
          Pin 87 - jumped from both pin 86 and 30. Fuel pump comes on.

          So how do I test pin 85?

          Thanks for all your help.

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          • Bryanlopez325
            Advanced Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 115

            #6
            I had this issue a while ago check your fuses relays cps and dme and also your connection to the fuel pump after replacing all of that junk turned out it was a bad connection

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            • TobyB
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2011
              • 5182

              #7
              For pin 85, connect your light to +12v and 85. Make sure it's a small test light, not a headlight.

              Then crank. It should light up when you're cranking.
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              now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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              • boggz412
                Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 49

                #8
                Check your cps (crank position sensor).



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                • Jackle30
                  Noobie
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 20

                  #9
                  I had this problem because the harness to the in tank fuel pump was cracked, so continuity was intermittent.
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                  • Poorboyz
                    R3VLimited
                    • May 2012
                    • 2117

                    #10
                    Intermittent problems are the worst. I'm currently having one although not electrical.

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                    • jalopi
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2370

                      #11
                      Yeah, fuck intermittent electrical problems. What you really need for those is a lab scope (imagine a graphing multimeter)

                      Unfortunately, lab scopes (especially the good ones) are expensive as fuck

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                      • AndrewBird
                        The Mad Scientist
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 11897

                        #12
                        The only thing you would need a oscilloscope for would be to check for a working CPS. Everything else can be diagnosed with a test light and once you do so, you should be able to verify within a certain amount of doubt that the CPS is good or bad.

                        OP, do you have spark? A bad CPS will also kill spark.

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