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  • Deja_Vu
    Noobie
    • Nov 2016
    • 25

    #1

    New belt's teeth/grooves significantly different from old

    So I'm in the process of replacing my belts and have gotten 2 in so far - timing and alternator belts. The new alternator belt has much smaller teeth than my current alternator belt. They are both labelled the same (Contitech AVX x 10 x 965 La), but the teeth on the old one (the one I took off my car) are much thicker and match the AC compressor and power steering belt. I asked Pelican about it and they said sometimes manufacturers have different teeth but the size and the width are really what matter. I pressed and said it was the same manufacturer but they didn't give a clear explanation. See attached image. Top is new, bottom is old. Am I ok to use this?

  • AndrewBird
    The Mad Scientist
    • Oct 2003
    • 11897

    #2
    The ribs don't do anything except make the belt a bit more flexible. It's fine to run it.

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    • Deja_Vu
      Noobie
      • Nov 2016
      • 25

      #3
      Ah OK. I was worried about slipping because of decreased surface area.

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      • AndrewBird
        The Mad Scientist
        • Oct 2003
        • 11897

        #4
        The teeth don't actually touch the pulley, the angled sides do. There is a minor surface area difference there, but not a significant one.

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        • TobyB
          R3V Elite
          • Oct 2011
          • 5182

          #5
          It's a v- belt, not a timing belt.

          They didn't used to have ANY ridges for your enjoyment...

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          now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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          • 15Michaeljoseph
            E30 Mastermind
            • Aug 2013
            • 1693

            #6
            That belt is totally fine, different brands sometimes have different/updated designs.
            (OO=[][]=OO) For Life

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            • MR E30 325is
              No R3VLimiter
              • Dec 2008
              • 3299

              #7
              Originally posted by Deja_Vu
              Ah OK. I was worried about slipping because of decreased surface area.
              Just for your future info, friction is not a function of surface area. In this case it is a function of tension.
              My previous build (currently E30-less)
              http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=170390

              A 2016 Toyota Tacoma TRD 4x4 Offroad in Inferno is my newest obsession

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              • Deja_Vu
                Noobie
                • Nov 2016
                • 25

                #8
                Originally posted by MR E30 325is
                Just for your future info, friction is not a function of surface area. In this case it is a function of tension.
                Yeah I remember that from high school physics...but there is a reason RWD sports cars typically have thicker tires. Can't remember why though.

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                • MR E30 325is
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3299

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Deja_Vu
                  Yeah I remember that from high school physics...but there is a reason RWD sports cars typically have thicker tires. Can't remember why though.
                  It's a more complex idea, but the concept of friction being independent of surface area is still accurate. Mainly has to do with the irregularities in asphalt and how thinner tires react under loading compared to wider tires.
                  My previous build (currently E30-less)
                  http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=170390

                  A 2016 Toyota Tacoma TRD 4x4 Offroad in Inferno is my newest obsession

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                  • TobyB
                    R3V Elite
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 5182

                    #10
                    the engine's too big.

                    Most rwd road course cars are the same all the way around...

                    t
                    now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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