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  • AC_Schnitzel
    Advanced Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 149

    #1

    Best way to identify source of fuel leak?

    It’s unclear of where it’s coming from, and only happens when the car sits for a longer period of time (weeks).



    The fuel is dripping from somewhere and making its way down to this line. (View from underneath the car facing the oil pan from in front of drivers side tire)

    After the car runs for a bit, if I shut off and start again, the fuel stops leaking.

    Which fuel lines run around/above the PS line?


    Any thoughts?


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    Last edited by AC_Schnitzel; 09-16-2018, 11:14 AM.
    JP
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  • jeffnhiscars
    R3V OG
    • Jun 2011
    • 6010

    #2
    The return line from the fpr is the only one on that side towards the front of the engine but it's the least likely to leak from sitting. If it's wet on that banjo can't you trace it
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    • AC_Schnitzel
      Advanced Member
      • Sep 2017
      • 149

      #3
      Nice. I'll check out a bunch of lines near the fuel rail and fpr.
      JP
      WTB: Z3 1.9 lever, plastic bumpers, 19# injectors, Anthracite Cloth Sport Seats


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      88 325 super eta
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      • 325e '87
        E30 Addict
        • May 2017
        • 503

        #4
        I didn’t have any leaking of gas on our cars, but, it was easy to buy 10 feet of new fuel line and replace the feed and return lines. Under the car there should be hard fuel lines that terminate inside the driver side frame just under the steering shaft u joint. The new rubber should route up and through the intake manifold and then split where the supply line goes to the fuel rail and return line from the pressure reg. For less than $30 you can just replace with new lines and clamps.
        My son has the 1987 325e, 2 door, 5speed
        I daily the 1989 325i, 4 door, 5speed

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        • jgilber0
          E30 Addict
          • Nov 2016
          • 457

          #5
          Originally posted by 325e '87
          I didn’t have any leaking of gas on our cars, but, it was easy to buy 10 feet of new fuel line and replace the feed and return lines. Under the car there should be hard fuel lines that terminate inside the driver side frame just under the steering shaft u joint. The new rubber should route up and through the intake manifold and then split where the supply line goes to the fuel rail and return line from the pressure reg. For less than $30 you can just replace with new lines and clamps.
          Agree. And you should do this sooner rather than later as there is risk of fire.

          It took me about 2 hours to replace all of my engine bay fuel hoses, I suspect that others could do it faster. Not a big investment in time or parts for a big improvement in safety and peace of mind.
          Jon (OO=[][]=OO)
          1992 325ic white, stock with a 5-speed swap
          Palm Beach County

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          • AC_Schnitzel
            Advanced Member
            • Sep 2017
            • 149

            #6
            Originally posted by jgilber0
            Agree. And you should do this sooner rather than later as there is risk of fire.

            It took me about 2 hours to replace all of my engine bay fuel hoses, I suspect that others could do it faster. Not a big investment in time or parts for a big improvement in safety and peace of mind.
            Sweet, do you have part numbers? Or did you just buy EFI fuel lines and cut/replace w/ the right hose clamps?
            JP
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            • jgilber0
              E30 Addict
              • Nov 2016
              • 457

              #7
              I bought BMW fuel line from BAVAuto, in three or four different sizes. Make sure that what you buy is high pressure EFI rated. I can’t remember all the part numbers anymore, but RealOEM was instrumental.

              Check your system carefully before ordering, RealOEM showed a split system that sent fuel to both the front and rear of the fuel rail through a Y splitter, but my 1992 M20 had only a single feed line going to the fuel rail at the front of the engine.

              Good luck! While you are in there, you should also do all of your vacuum and cooling hoses if you haven’t already done so.
              Jon (OO=[][]=OO)
              1992 325ic white, stock with a 5-speed swap
              Palm Beach County

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              • jeffnhiscars
                R3V OG
                • Jun 2011
                • 6010

                #8
                It's 8x13mm but I've bought some at the dealer which was 5/16 (which Napa sells for less). Either way it's bulk hose so you don't need a PN
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                • george graves
                  I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 19993

                  #9
                  I'll just echo what people said. Factory quality EFI fuel lines cost $$$. But cheaping out is a bad idea. Autozone will sell you anything, but the trust on it is very low.

                  If you park your car in an attached garage, all the more reason to get the real stuff. Then it's not just a leak, it can be a fire/life hazard. Just my 2 cents.
                  Originally posted by Matt-B
                  hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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                  • dnguyen1963
                    R3VLimited
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 2648

                    #10
                    Hey guys,

                    The EFI hose is not made by BMW or Autozone. They are made by other companies and would have to meet very stringent requirements. Imagine if there is a fire and it is traced back to the fuel hose...the liability is enormous.

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                    • AC_Schnitzel
                      Advanced Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 149

                      #11
                      thanks for your responses.

                      Any idea if this is the right part + enough length? https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...13311722262-5m

                      Is 5 meters enough to do the entire car?

                      EDIT: there are other fuel hoses varying in inner/outer diameters labeled as "braided fuel/vacuum hose" -- https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bra...m-od-x-30mm-id

                      What are the differences?
                      JP
                      WTB: Z3 1.9 lever, plastic bumpers, 19# injectors, Anthracite Cloth Sport Seats


                      Current
                      88 325 super eta
                      00 528i/5 (daily)
                      02 530iA sport

                      Former
                      04 525iA sport
                      87 325is
                      91 325i
                      97 528i

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                      • dnguyen1963
                        R3VLimited
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 2648

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AC_Schnitzel
                        thanks for your responses.

                        Any idea if this is the right part + enough length? https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...13311722262-5m

                        Is 5 meters enough to do the entire car?

                        EDIT: there are other fuel hoses varying in inner/outer diameters labeled as "braided fuel/vacuum hose" -- https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bra...m-od-x-30mm-id

                        What are the differences?
                        8X13 mm is the correct hose. 5 m is enough with some left over. The other hose is actually 5.5 mm...too small.

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                        • AC_Schnitzel
                          Advanced Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 149

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dnguyen1963
                          8X13 mm is the correct hose. 5 m is enough with some left over. The other hose is actually 5.5 mm...too small.
                          For sure -- I'll order the roll from FCP.

                          Noob question incoming:

                          When I go to remove these fuel lines, how do I minimize the amount of fuel spillage, and also reduce the pressure in the lines so that I can more-easily take them off?
                          JP
                          WTB: Z3 1.9 lever, plastic bumpers, 19# injectors, Anthracite Cloth Sport Seats


                          Current
                          88 325 super eta
                          00 528i/5 (daily)
                          02 530iA sport

                          Former
                          04 525iA sport
                          87 325is
                          91 325i
                          97 528i

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                          • jgilber0
                            E30 Addict
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 457

                            #14
                            Originally posted by AC_Schnitzel
                            For sure -- I'll order the roll from FCP.

                            Noob question incoming:

                            When I go to remove these fuel lines, how do I minimize the amount of fuel spillage, and also reduce the pressure in the lines so that I can more-easily take them off?
                            I let my car sit a few days before starting the job, and there was no pressure when I removed the lines.

                            I had almost no spillage, you can use forceps to pinch off the lines if you’re concerned.
                            Jon (OO=[][]=OO)
                            1992 325ic white, stock with a 5-speed swap
                            Palm Beach County

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                            • jeffnhiscars
                              R3V OG
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 6010

                              #15
                              5m will do both engine compartment lines for 2 cars
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                              http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                              87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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