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  • James Crivellone
    Head Janitor
    • Oct 2003
    • 6301

    #1

    camber...

    I have a good -5 degree's of camber on my rear tires, was wondering if any solutions could correct that a bit?,


    Suspension is the H&R Cup Kit, Running stock spring pads etc.


    Wheels/Tires = Alpina Kopi's 17 * 7.5 and Yoko ES100 215/40 17's

    it does not bug me that much, as I kinda like the look, I am just worried about tire wear
  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #2
    you need offset trailing arm bushings, or even better, modified trailing arms..

    camber is good, but -5 degrees seems like an awful lot for a street car. it could also be that your stock bushings are worn out and giving you more camber..
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    • Jordan
      R3V OG
      • Oct 2003
      • 12907

      #3
      The negative camber on the cupkit isnt bad at all. I don't see why it would be that much of a problem. Just have your tired rotated often and you will still see perfectly normal wear from them.
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      • Ryan Stewart
        I Love Miatas
        • Oct 2003
        • 8978

        #4
        It cant be 5, probably 3. Even though that is still a lot and will wear your tires like no other.

        The offest rear bushings wont do anything but change the toe. The way the system is designed there is only a miniscule of camber to be had. The only thing to do to get REAL camber improvements is to have bent control arms.
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        • aaron_silva
          E30 Mastermind
          • Oct 2003
          • 1785

          #5
          I have also heard of welding different trailing arm mounts as an alternative. Can someone shed some light on this.

          Also, I have heard that adjustable trailing arm bushings dont hold the position. Most people are stuck adjusting them monthly.

          Aaron

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          • rwh11385
            lance_entities
            • Oct 2003
            • 18403

            #6
            I might need to know, mine is kinda bad. But this topic has been discussed many times. But never truly resolved to me. I'm tempted to have TA's bent, as the local shop here is good at it and my uncle is keen on it.



            I'm hopefully going in for an alignment soon and we'll see what happens......

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            • James Crivellone
              Head Janitor
              • Oct 2003
              • 6301

              #7
              Originally posted by Jordan
              The negative camber on the cupkit isnt bad at all. I don't see why it would be that much of a problem. Just have your tired rotated often and you will still see perfectly normal wear from them.
              yeah that is what I was planning to do.


              I also have some worn bushings I am replacing in the next week or so


              after checking it again, I would guess it is around -3 - -4 degree's , not a big deal, I am mainly worried about tire wear.



              so how many miles for every rotation?

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              • Beej '86 325es
                R3VLimited
                • Feb 2004
                • 2639

                #8
                I just completely rebuilt my rear suspension this weekend with a modified subframe to adjust camber and toe. Judging by your rear's height, I'd say your camber is about what mine used to be, -3 degrees. With all of the new parts, my car sits only about 1/2" higher than yours now and with the camber corrected as much as the subframe will allow, it looks to be between 0 to - 0.5 degrees camber. Perfect. I love it. I'll try and post pics of everything in the next couple of days, I'll start a new thread.
                -Brandon
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                • Bill 84 318i
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1600

                  #9
                  There are basically three ways.

                  1) Bend the trailing arm.
                  2) Offset bushings (pain, because you can't really adjust toe without adjusting camber).
                  3) Weld adjustable tabs onto the subframe. My favorite way.

                  Brandon, that's great that you can get your ride height and camber figures that low.

                  Personally, I'm pretty 'who cares' on it. I love how the car handles with the camber, and it's worth the tire wear to me. Otherwise I'd get 500+ treadwear tires. I suppose that when I do get around to doing all the rear bushings, I'll be going with the adjustable tabs.

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                  • aaron_silva
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1785

                    #10
                    Who offers adjustable tabs?

                    Aaron

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                    • Bill 84 318i
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1600

                      #11
                      Originally posted by aaron_silva
                      Who offers adjustable tabs?

                      Aaron
                      IE and SBI. You slot the holes in your current tabs then weld their things on and use special bolts.

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                      • M-technik-3
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 18946

                        #12
                        Not good for handling at this point.

                        Suspension is working to hard to keep up.
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                        • rwh11385
                          lance_entities
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 18403

                          #13
                          Greg, that's for sure. What is the ideal range for a streetable modded car?

                          Raising the rear to a not-so-slammed height will help a little.

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                          • 808BMW
                            R3VLimited
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 2910

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bill 84 318i
                            Originally posted by aaron_silva
                            Who offers adjustable tabs?

                            Aaron
                            IE and SBI. You slot the holes in your current tabs then weld their things on and use special bolts.
                            Pics of this setup?

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                            • rwh11385
                              lance_entities
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 18403

                              #15


                              That it?


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