Is there a cure for negative front camber?

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  • Jand3rson
    Banned
    • Oct 2003
    • 37587

    #16
    Originally posted by Jordan
    Aluminum control arms are a waste of money. Also you are "supposed" to replace them fairly often.
    Good to know.

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    • Jand3rson
      Banned
      • Oct 2003
      • 37587

      #17
      Well, having just seen the pics of LikeCDoos' car on the same suspension setup, now I'm really pissed. What could be causing so much negative camber? I hate it!

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      • LikeCDoos
        R3VLimited
        • Jan 2004
        • 2522

        #18
        are your springs used?? The Pro kit is very famous for sagging after time. Maybe the fronts have sagged. My rear was sagging so i doubled the spring pads.

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        • Jand3rson
          Banned
          • Oct 2003
          • 37587

          #19
          I'm pretty sure the PO bought the setup used.

          I'm trying to sell it anyway, so if no one knows, no big deal.

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          • rwh11385
            lance_entities
            • Oct 2003
            • 18403

            #20
            Originally posted by Jordan
            The previous owner did hop a curb sideways at a speed fast enough to shatter his steering rack. One would imagine strut housing damage also happened. I have no idea (aside from the steering rack) what was replaced.
            I know you want a project, but I personally don't like FUCKing with accident cars......scary. A lot of things could be messed up without being able to find them......

            **goes out to driveway, looks at front repaint & missing airbag, obviously screwed rear**

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            • Jand3rson
              Banned
              • Oct 2003
              • 37587

              #21
              Originally posted by rwh11385
              Originally posted by Jordan
              The previous owner did hop a curb sideways at a speed fast enough to shatter his steering rack. One would imagine strut housing damage also happened. I have no idea (aside from the steering rack) what was replaced.
              I know you want a project, but I personally don't like FUCKing with accident cars......scary. A lot of things could be messed up without being able to find them
              It wasn't in an accident, like he said, he just fucked up the steering rack. I'm sure whatever's wrong with the suspension can be fixed.

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              • Jand3rson
                Banned
                • Oct 2003
                • 37587

                #22
                Screw it. The whole kit is coming off, and everything that can be rebuilt will be. I'm going to get an H&R cupkit.

                I decided long before I got this car that none of my mods were going to be "settled on". There were so many things that I wanted to do my car before that I didn't, because I couldn't afford them.
                Not this time. :twisted:

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                • Sean
                  R3V Elite
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 5793

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Eurospeed88
                  Screw it. The whole kit is coming off, and everything that can be rebuilt will be. I'm going to get an H&R cupkit.

                  I decided long before I got this car that none of my mods were going to be "settled on". There were so many things that I wanted to do my car before that I didn't, because I couldn't afford them.
                  Not this time. :twisted:
                  Considering gas prices, and the amount you're saving there, you're going to have such a nice car when the time comes! :D 8) ;)
                  - Sean Hayes

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                  • Jand3rson
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 37587

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Sean
                    Considering gas prices, and the amount you're saving there, you're going to have such a nice car when the time comes! :D 8) ;)
                    Thanks, that's the plan. Nothing half-assed. :D

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                    • Digitalwave
                      is a poseur
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 6282

                      #25
                      It seems like you might want to get that on a frame puller and see how straight the chassis is. My car is lowered a lot more in the front than that, and I don't even have half that camber. Something is seriously messed up in the front, and even the rear seems strange, it should have more negative camber than that. But it might be the massive amount in the front making the rear look less.

                      RISING EDGE

                      Let's drive fast and have fun.

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                      • kco325
                        Noobie
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 15

                        #26
                        I bit of my 2 cents here:
                        Unibody cars are a bit unique in that the frame IS the body. So, when you take a car that you have just bought and take it to the frame puller and say "I want it completely square and straight," you'll quite possibly end up with an inch wide gap in the door somewhere, or your fenders won't line up, and that is a HUGE pain in the ass.
                        I know.
                        Instead, consider getting something to let you adjust toe-in and camber in the back (like adjustable trailing arm bushings, bimmerworld sells them for cheap), and maybe something to let you adjust things further in the front. With all 4 tires completely adjustable (camber & toe in) you can compensate COMPLETELY for any shifted frame or body, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Your car might end up pointing 0.25 degrees to one side, but no-one will notice, and your tire wear and handling will be perfect.
                        Meanwhile, if you've got a bigass gap in between body panels, it's very noticeable and very hard to fix.

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                        • Jand3rson
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 37587

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Digitalwave
                          It seems like you might want to get that on a frame puller and see how straight the chassis is. My car is lowered a lot more in the front than that, and I don't even have half that camber. Something is seriously messed up in the front, and even the rear seems strange, it should have more negative camber than that. But it might be the massive amount in the front making the rear look less.
                          You may be right TJ, but I don't think there's anything wrong with the frame. I've seen one car in particular with the same setup, and his camber in the rear is fine. Like I said, the angles of those pics aren't great, and they make the rear look like it has less neg. camber than it actually does. It does have a small amount. I have also seen a lot of pics of Eibach lowered E30's that have a ton of neg. camber.

                          As I said, my plan is to get the CupKit on there, and replace the control arms an any other suspension parts that look like they need it. I'm sure it will be fine.

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                          • Jand3rson
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 37587

                            #28
                            Well, Jordan is coming tomorrow. Mainly to do some other work with me, but to check out the suspension too. I'm really scared that it's going to be something that can't be fixed, like frame damage or something. If that's the case, the guy I'm buying it from (making payments) will be getting it back pronto.

                            Everyone cross your fingers for me. :D

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                            • Super Eta
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1884

                              #29
                              haha do what the people did with my parts car (KeithV's old car) cut off the front nose from firewall forword and weld in a 318i front nose. :rofl:

                              You could go even farther like they did and replace the engine while your at it.

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                              • franz
                                Mod Crazy
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 631

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Eurospeed88
                                Originally posted by Sean
                                Considering gas prices, and the amount you're saving there, you're going to have such a nice car when the time comes! :D 8) ;)
                                Thanks, that's the plan. Nothing half-assed. :D
                                I guess your plan failed before it got started 'cause that definitely looks half-assed.
                                $2k for that, WTF were you thinking?

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