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    Engine sounds like a machine gun

    OK, it's an m20b27, 223k miles. Good condition. Last weekend I did the timing belt, cam seals, water pump, spark plugs, and valve adjustment.

    Drove it about 175 miles, no problems, I drove it hard and also some highway cruising. It sounded great, with no valve noise.

    I let it sit for 2 days, and then start it back up to go for a drive (5 days since the work was done at this point). I notice a weird noise, pop the hood. Sounds like my valves are WAY out of adjustment, or a rocker nut fell off or something. This noise is definitely coming from under the valve cover.

    It also sounds like some sort of tapping/knocking coming from the front of the engine, maybe near the water pump. Using the screwdriver-to-ear trick I couldn't trace it down.

    It spitting some black shit out of the exhaust, not sure if it's fuel or oil. It's leaking oil, looks like from the cam seal or head gasket. Those seals were perfect, I spent a long time oiling them up and getting them flush. The head gasket never leaked before.

    It seems to make good power, and idles smooth as hell.

    Any ideas? I'm going to tear into it tonight, but if anyone has a simple idea to check before I rip the front of my car apart I would highly appreciate it.

    My possible ideas:
    • Timing belt slipped 1 tooth or tensioner came loose (wouldn't explain noise OR smooth idle)
    • Rocker nut loose/fell off
    • Broken rocker (does an engine even run with a broken rocker?)
    • Tool left under valve cover (I will punch myself in the mouth if this is the case)
    • Broken valve (wouldn't be related to the recent work, just coincidence)
    85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
    e30 restoration and V8 swap
    24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

    #2
    i think all of this is a sign nontheless, put in one of the 2 m20b25's that you own.

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      #3
      Originally posted by JGood View Post
      • Timing belt slipped 1 tooth or tensioner came loose (wouldn't explain noise OR smooth idle)
      • Rocker nut loose/fell off
      • Broken rocker (does an engine even run with a broken rocker?)
      • Tool left under valve cover (I will punch myself in the mouth if this is the case)
      • Broken valve (wouldn't be related to the recent work, just coincidence)
      That's where my money is at

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        #4
        Originally posted by RobertK View Post
        That's where my money is at
        hahaha fuck you. I hope not man, I would seriously never work on a car ever again. All of my tools are accounted for (I'm very organized). The feeler gauge and eccentric spring tool are on my workbench. There was no missing/extra hardware.

        JHower, if that m20b27 comes out, no m20, unless it's a fully built turbo engine, will be going back in. S50 swap on a credit card FTW.
        85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
        e30 restoration and V8 swap
        24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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          #5
          haha asshole, then sell me one of them if youre not going to use it

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            #6
            haha no one is helping him youre just tryin to score an engine

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              #7
              Originally posted by JGood View Post
              • Timing belt slipped 1 tooth or tensioner came loose (wouldn't explain noise OR smooth idle)
              • Rocker nut loose/fell off
              • Broken rocker (does an engine even run with a broken rocker?)
              • Tool left under valve cover (I will punch myself in the mouth if this is the case)
              • Broken valve (wouldn't be related to the recent work, just coincidence)
              Broken valve = no go senor
              I broke a valve right at the stem on my first motor, put a hole in the piston, wasn't pretty.
              I would be willing to guess that a rocker nut is loose or came off.
              My 2.9L Build!

              Originally posted by Ernest Hemingway
              There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.

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                #8
                Cam gear came loose. Don't know why/how.
                85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                e30 restoration and V8 swap
                24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                  #9
                  make certain that you have the new style cam cear and oil pump gear. the old sheetmetal ones are bad news, the one you want is cast aluminum I think, it has spokes.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by turnofftheradio View Post
                    make certain that you have the new style cam cear and oil pump gear. the old sheetmetal ones are bad news, the one you want is cast aluminum I think, it has spokes.
                    Good call. The problem came back, the bolt came loose again, the cam gear wobbled, caused the hole in the gear for the cam alignment pin to turn into a slot and therefore I had an adjustable cam gear haha. Swapped to the later style spoked gear and internal torx bolt with loctite and it's been fine ever since. m20b27 fuh evA! I wish it would just blow up already...
                    85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                    e30 restoration and V8 swap
                    24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by JGood View Post
                      I wish it would just blow up already...
                      Just cease all maintenance.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mr Deagle View Post
                        Just cease all maintenance.
                        these cars require maintenance?
                        Claus Luthe is my hero.

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