Uneven front brakes

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  • fabianyee
    Advanced Member
    • Dec 2003
    • 195

    #16
    Ok guys... Let's just assume that I'm right wrong this...
    But let's put the facts down...

    So what are the main objectives of using steel braided hoses over normal rubber hoses?
    Doesn't the steel hoses claim to reduce tendency of brakes fading? how? By retaining the same diameter of the hoses throughout the whole brake lines. Or have i got that wrong?

    For me, after putting in the cable ties, the brake feel is more immediate and not spongy like b4. So it got to be the rubber hoses, or is it not???
    I know this might look like a kiddy project, but then it works.
    Unless you can prove theoretically otherwise.

    It's not the matter of who's having the last laugh, please be mature enuf to discuss the matter academically....
    BMWClub Malaysia
    www.bmwclubmalaysia.com

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    • AndrewBird
      The Mad Scientist
      • Oct 2003
      • 11897

      #17
      If your breaks felt spongy, then you need to bleed the lines. This could also be the reason for the lock up if there is a lot of air in one of the lines. But I would think it would have to b a LOT of air.

      Break fade generally comes from the break pads heating up and not gripping the calliper/rotor as well as they were when they were cold. You can get kevlar break pads that do not decrease in grip when they heat that will solve this, among other things.

      Andrew

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      • Matto
        E30 Modder
        • Jan 2004
        • 800

        #18
        I thought brake fade had to do with getting the brake fluid to hot and getting gas bubles in it.

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        • EVOIIIM3
          Grease Monkey
          • Oct 2003
          • 315

          #19
          OMG! That must have taken so much time!!

          But my question is WHY?

          Now back to the point.

          Uneven pad wear can be caused by....
          crud in the brake line
          sticking caliper
          bad/ sticky guide pins


          My advice would be to....
          Get some SS brakes lines
          new fluid
          new guide pins
          maybe a rebuild if you see some crud in there.

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          • Rob
            Moderator
            • Oct 2003
            • 8166

            #20
            SS lines are supposed to help firm up brake pedal feel, they have nothing to do with fade. Like Matto said, brake fade is an overheating of the brakes and fluid, causing the pedal to travel more and more to accomplish the same level of brake pressure
            BEERTECH

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            • Ryan Stewart
              I Love Miatas
              • Oct 2003
              • 8978

              #21
              Just to toss in my .02 I have to agree with Charley on the SS lines. I didnt notice a difference in feel but I did put them on in place of my rubber lines as part of what was a ritual so my lines may have been in great shape and I know the fluid was bled because I have to do it bi-anually to qualify for some events here.
              Im now E30less.
              sigpic

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              • fabianyee
                Advanced Member
                • Dec 2003
                • 195

                #22
                Had my front brake calipers serviced and the braking is much better. the right wheel doesn't lock up that easily compared to prior the brake service.

                The service kit cost RM30 (~USD 8 ) each over here... so it's about USD16 for both side.
                BMWClub Malaysia
                www.bmwclubmalaysia.com

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                • robert325is
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 1171

                  #23
                  wow... when i first saw that picture i thought it was just a joke.. then i realized it wasn't and i felt bad that you probably spent so much time for nothing

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                  • jblack
                    Member
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 98

                    #24
                    You should take some magnets and zip-tie them to the lines. This will magnetize the brake fluid and make it run more evenly to the calipers. Plus, there is like a 5-20 HP bump around 2000-3000 RPM.

                    Arugh!

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                    • bimmerphile
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 3495

                      #25
                      Originally posted by jblack
                      You should take some magnets and zip-tie them to the lines. This will magnetize the brake fluid and make it run more evenly to the calipers. Plus, there is like a 5-20 HP bump around 2000-3000 RPM.

                      Arugh!
                      bastard, beat me to it!


                      /derailed
                      My mountains are better than yours.

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                      • fabianyee
                        Advanced Member
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 195

                        #26
                        u guys just too funny

                        anyway, I serviced the brake calipers not change the brake hoses.. I think there is a difference between changing brake hoses and servicing the brake calipers or is there another term for it? The zip ties are still there.
                        BMWClub Malaysia
                        www.bmwclubmalaysia.com

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                        • bimmerphile
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 3495

                          #27
                          Changing the brake lines and servicing the calipers are 2 completely different things.

                          One involves changing the brake lines, the other involves servicing the calipers
                          My mountains are better than yours.

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                          • e30Matt
                            R3V Elite
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 5077

                            #28
                            Originally posted by bimmerphile
                            Changing the brake lines and servicing the calipers are 2 completely different things.

                            One involves changing the brake lines, the other involves servicing the calipers
                            :nice:

                            "See, we're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired."

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                            • kylebes1
                              R3VLimited
                              • May 2004
                              • 2804

                              #29
                              So would you guys say the calipers were still good, just that they need rebuilt,as in new seals and stuff?

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                              • fabianyee
                                Advanced Member
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 195

                                #30
                                Originally posted by kylebes1
                                So would you guys say the calipers were still good, just that they need rebuilt,as in new seals and stuff?
                                It involved changing the inner rubber seals and the outer seals..
                                The brakes feel much better now. More even braking.
                                BMWClub Malaysia
                                www.bmwclubmalaysia.com

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