Veggie oil 324Td

[aaron325ix]

I have been seeing a lot of great info lately on doing the conversion for diesel cars to run on vegetable oil. I was curious if anyone knows of anyone doing this to a bimmer. I think it would be a great idea if not.

[e34john]

Ive mostly seen older MB diesels. But this site claims to have done it to a 524td.

http://www.goldenfuelsystems.com/index.php

Ive also seen a few on craigslist.

This one is pretty cool too

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/08/08/biodiesel.bullet.bike/index.html

[Julien]

i ran my 324td on a 1/3 colza oil... it def. didn't like it.

[mrsleeve]

you can but they just dont have the same power as dino. The m21 will barely get out of its own way on dino I would hate to see it on SVO. Also if you live any where that gets below 40F you will need a tank heater, most if them keep the oil so hot it will destroy the seals in injectors injection pumps an lots of other temp senstive stuff. Most of the SVO systems run 2 tanks 1 for the SVO and one for Dino diesel for start ups an shut downs.

[aaron325ix]

interesting. I like the idea of free fuel and exhaust that smells like fries, but I just wonder how reliable it is. I wonder if you get any tax breaks for owning something like this. Thanks for the posts keep em coming.

[Jand3rson]

I've been wanting to get a 324td engine for a while now, do a sweet build to get as much power as possible, and swap it in running biodiesel. That would be awesome.

[atomic]

As far as I know there are not any tax breaks on running biodiesel. I have actually been hesitant to run it in my truck as well. A friend of mine ran it in his f250 and he said it really didnt' like it all that much.

And to make the fuel yourself you really need to find a good source to get a lot of used cooking oil from or it is not cheap to make if you end up having to pay for new oil etc. The equipment to make the biodiesel to make like a 150 gallon batch costs somewhere in the 10k range. So the break even point will take sometime to pay off the equipment before you make your own fuel for about .50 a gallon with free used oil. At least from what I have gathered from some shows on it and research on the net.

If diesel goes much higher I might just have to break down and do it though. I am paying almost $3.75 a gallon now for regular diesel which blows.

[Charlie]

interesting. I like the idea of free fuel and exhaust that smells like fries, but I just wonder how reliable it is. I wonder if you get any tax breaks for owning something like this. Thanks for the posts keep em coming.

It might have been "free" 10 years ago, it definetly isn't now. Most fast food places will sell you their WVO, but you certainly can't just take it these days.

As others have mentioned, the car will probably run, but it won't run well.

-Charlie

[SpecM]

-There is a huge start-up cost to filter and refine the oil (as stated). I didn't know it was 10k, that will push your break-even point WAY out.

-Tax breaks... well obviously you wouldn't be paying high fuel taxes/tariffs, and in North Carolina there is a reduced property-tax rate for bio-diesels and hybrids.

[Julien]

-There is a huge start-up cost to filter and refine the oil (as stated). I didn't know it was 10k, that will push your break-even point WAY out.

-Tax breaks... well obviously you wouldn't be paying high fuel taxes/tariffs, and in North Carolina there is a reduced property-tax rate for bio-diesels and hybrids.

dubya tee ef?
Start up costs to filter your own wvo run less than 1k$ unless you get some Stainless steel gold plated filters, lol.


Julien

[mikeedler]

here is a car in my yard that used to run on Burger King french fry oil, and a few times on Thanksgiving fried turkey oil. the biggest problem was the filtering process. the injector pump was ruined from pieces of turkey once, and the complete fuel lines and filter were plugged with hardened BK grease a few times.

The last kick for the car was the propane injection with 50/50 diesel/ BK oil. the injector was drilled out to be as big as possible. ran great, but the belt came off the gen, owner didnt realize it, and drove it itll it overheated and quit!.

not my car, but my buddies beater.


notice the hole in the intake boot after the turbo, thats where the injector for the propane was.


notice the grease stains on the side of the car. oh, and stock I thought the car felt faster than a euro 320i- but that still isnt that fast- but faster than an ETA!

[mrsleeve]

There are tax brakes fro running SVO of home brew bio fuel, You dont have to pay the 32 cents a gallon federal tax on fuel, as long as you make your own. Now if you get your tank dipped by a dumb shit patrol cop you will prolly get a big fine ticket but its easily fightable. SC has tried this a couple of times but to avail.

To get set up to run SVO (stright veggie oil) will run 600-1k or less if you are creative in how and where you source parts. IF you want to run Home Brew Bio it will set you back around 1500-2500 for the tanks heaters an all the shit to seperate all the glicerin other shit out. Plus you have to get certifed (in some states) to handle and have large quanties of Lye (sodium Hydroxide) and methnol to make the home brew, after all is said and done you are looking at 1.40ish a gallon assuming you get the oil for nothing.

Every where I looked into for getting waste oil wanted to sell it to me for $0.75 -$1.75 a gallon. So I am still on good ol LS or ULS if I have no choice dino Diesel. But with it playing with $4+ a gallon and projected to be north of $5 a gallon this summer there will be alot more competition for the waste veggie so be prepaird to see that cost of that go up too.

[atomic]

There are cheaper kits but I was looking at one time the 150 gallon kit, which has come down in price a bit, $8k now. I am sure you can prefab your own rig as well for far less. But as a business owner I could right off 100% of the start up cost if I ever choose to go that route in the future.

Here is a link to the site which sells anything related to home brewing biodiesel.

http://www.homebiodieselkits.com/homeprocessors.html

You can also bypass the cleaning stage and use new fresh unused oil as well, probably close to the same price as used oil will cost you.

[SpecM]

-Cool pics, I honestly don't think I've ever seen a picture of an m21d24 before

[mrsleeve]

Atomic,

the 1st 400 gal or so per quarter for personal use is exempt form the 32 cents a gallon road use tax (most states have flowled suit) any thing over that you must settle up on at the end of the year. Now for business use you may not be exempt an will owe 32 cent on the gallon for every gallon used plus you state taxes on the fuel too. But you would have to look into the business use and the exemption status of that.