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  • Brew
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    • Oct 2003
    • 3060

    #1

    e30m50 starter question

    First off, I'm using the m20 starter with the getrag 260 and m20 clutch and flywheel. I have 4 wires connected to the starter, a red power wire, a black wire going to the alternator, a black and yellow wire, and a black and green wire. When I turn the key to the "on" position, the starter makes noise but does not turn the engine. Am I fucked?
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  • Jordan
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    • Oct 2003
    • 12911

    #2
    sounds like it is improperly wired.
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    • Brew
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      • Oct 2003
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      Well the starter is getting power and its getting a signal from the ignition to turn on. I am really really worried that my engine might be seized or something. To me, it almost sounds like the starter is trying to spin but can't for some reason. I might be planning a trip to Maine where I bought the motor.
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      • UNHCLL
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        • Oct 2003
        • 8789

        #4
        Originally posted by Brew
        Well the starter is getting power and its getting a signal from the ignition to turn on. I am really really worried that my engine might be seized or something. To me, it almost sounds like the starter is trying to spin but can't for some reason. I might be planning a trip to Maine where I bought the motor.
        Pull your spark plugs, put the car in neutral and spin the engine over by hand. Thats the easiest way to tell if the engine is siezed.

        i think you'vr got wires crossed.... :?:
        Below the radar...

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        • Brew
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          • Oct 2003
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          #5
          Originally posted by UNHCLL
          Originally posted by Brew
          Well the starter is getting power and its getting a signal from the ignition to turn on. I am really really worried that my engine might be seized or something. To me, it almost sounds like the starter is trying to spin but can't for some reason. I might be planning a trip to Maine where I bought the motor.
          Pull your spark plugs, put the car in neutral and spin the engine over by hand. Thats the easiest way to tell if the engine is siezed.

          i think you'vr got wires crossed.... :?:
          Thanks Chris, I'll try that. I'm hoping its just a wiring issue.
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          • UNHCLL
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            • Oct 2003
            • 8789

            #6
            Originally posted by Brew
            Originally posted by UNHCLL
            Originally posted by Brew
            Well the starter is getting power and its getting a signal from the ignition to turn on. I am really really worried that my engine might be seized or something. To me, it almost sounds like the starter is trying to spin but can't for some reason. I might be planning a trip to Maine where I bought the motor.
            Pull your spark plugs, put the car in neutral and spin the engine over by hand. Thats the easiest way to tell if the engine is siezed.

            i think you'vr got wires crossed.... :?:
            Thanks Chris, I'll try that. I'm hoping its just a wiring issue.
            I'm sure you know, but only spin it in the direction of rotation while running. let us know how the manual crank over goes.
            Below the radar...

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            • Brew
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              • Oct 2003
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              #7
              Stupid question probably, but which way is that? :oops:
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              • UNHCLL
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                • Oct 2003
                • 8789

                #8
                Originally posted by Brew
                Stupid question probably, but which way is that? :oops:
                Counter Clockwise if you are looking head onto the engine from the front IIRC.
                Double check that though!
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                • Brew
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                  • Oct 2003
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                  #9
                  Looks like I'm taking a drive. :curse: I don't think I've ever been so pissed in my life.
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                  • Jordan
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                    • Oct 2003
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                    #10
                    Wait a sec... are you to tell us you didnt try to turn the motor over prior to buying it?

                    That sucks.
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                    • Brew
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 3060

                      #11
                      I thought that I had turned it at some point. The motor was on a stand when I picked it up but the kid assured me that it ran well. Hopefully I'll be able to work something out. I feel like such a fucking idiot. Can you delete this friggin thread? I don't want to look at it
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                      • Jordan
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                        • Oct 2003
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                        #12
                        So you took the plugs out and attempted a hand crank over with the front main crank bolt to no avail? engine wouldnt budge?
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                        • Brew
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                          • Oct 2003
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                          #13
                          Yup. I pulled like a mother fucker. And yes, the tranny was in neutral.
                          Is there any other reason why it wouldn't turn?
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                          • trent

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Brew
                            Yup. I pulled like a mother fucker. And yes, the tranny was in neutral.
                            Is there any other reason why it wouldn't turn?
                            Yea, a rod is melted to the crank.

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                            • Brew
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                              • Oct 2003
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                              #15
                              Fuck.

                              I have so much violence in me right now.
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