Air/ Fuel Ratio gauge

[DaveSmed]

yep, I just read it on the internet. I have no idea what I'm talking about. you can totally "tune" your car with a narrowband sensor and turning the wheel on the AFM - that's how all the pros do it anyway. :roll:

Let it go, and just be glad hes not ghettofing anything nice. He's happy, he "fixed" his car afterall.

[backtrail69]

How about you girls man up and install and tune a standalone oh a hot street/race motor like Nando and I have... You would learn a lot about tuning. You first off would throw moronic in the garbage. It is fine on a 100% stock car, but its a pile of shit beyond that. NO ONE tunes ANYTHING with a narrow band that has ANY idea what they are doing.

[nando]

Oh god, don't tell them that the gauge actually works, you'll start up a shit storm! Just because they have read that it doesn't work on the internet and its useless that MUST mean that its right...

But it worked for me so yepp..

yep, I just read it on the internet. I have no idea what I'm talking about. you can totally "tune" your car with a narrowband sensor and turning the wheel on the AFM - that's how all the pros do it anyway. :roll:

[SamE30e]

So no one want's to explain to me why my experience proves the ss meter isn't useless?

Oh god, don't tell them that the gauge actually works, you'll start up a shit storm! Just because they have read that it doesn't work on the internet and its useless that MUST mean that its right...

But it worked for me so yepp..

[delatlanta1281]

Ok I have a question then. I replaced my intake man. gaskets six months ago. One folded in the process and the car got worse and worse. It wasn't running too badly, but my a/frm started showing more and more lean.... I knew something was wrong b/c of the meter and low and behold.... It was right.
So what's so useless about that?

So no one want's to explain to me why my experience proves the ss meter isn't useless?

[SamE30e]

you are a retard. it's supposed to be rich at WOT, and the AFM has nothing to do with WOT either - it runs in open loop, ignoring the AFM signal completely.

also, all you are seeing with the gauge is it's richer than 14.7 in some areas. how much richer though? 14.5? 10? 13.7? you have no idea.

Oh well, my car runs better and doesn't burn a shit load of gas.. So apparently i'm not retarded.

[nando]

Installed the narrowband, it gave me a idea of the problem. on WOT it was running rich for some reason, I think the AFM was out of wack, so I adjusted it to lean it out a bit and now it runs better...

Useless my ass, thats all I wanted to know, rich or lean, or if it wasn't a problem with fuel mixture.

you are a retard. it's supposed to be rich at WOT, and the AFM has nothing to do with WOT either - it runs in open loop, ignoring the AFM signal completely.

also, all you are seeing with the gauge is it's richer than 14.7 in some areas. how much richer though? 14.5? 10? 13.7? you have no idea.

[SamE30e]

ok so youre saying that you adjusted your afm throughout its operation because your car was running rich at WOT where the computer no longer takes any reading from the o2 sensor... oh well that makes sense to me

Sorry, my bad, after observing the gauge throughout various throttle positions while under load.

[NC325iC]

ok so youre saying that you adjusted your afm throughout its operation because your car was running rich at WOT where the computer no longer takes any reading from the o2 sensor... oh well that makes sense to me

[SamE30e]

Installed the narrowband, it gave me a idea of the problem. on WOT it was running rich for some reason, I think the AFM was out of wack, so I adjusted it to lean it out a bit and now it runs better...

Useless my ass, thats all I wanted to know, rich or lean, or if it wasn't a problem with fuel mixture.

[delatlanta1281]

Ok I have a question then. I replaced my intake man. gaskets six months ago. One folded in the process and the car got worse and worse. It wasn't running too badly, but my a/frm started showing more and more lean.... I knew something was wrong b/c of the meter and low and behold.... It was right.
So what's so useless about that?

[DaveSmed]

Like I said I don't want to cut apart my harness, a cut harness is worth less $$... lol

Oh! Now it makes sense! You didn't want to cut apart your harness to install something that would give you a useful reading so you can resell the harness!

....So you cut it apart to install a stupid gauge.

....And you could have used the factory O2 connector for the LC-1.

Damn. So much for making sense.

Actually no. I'm not using to to tune my AFM, I drive an e, it is the definition of slow. Nevermind I found the wire colour, you guys are useless.

Were just trying to give you a feel for your gauge and as helpful as it is. Hey, why not try tuning by r3v, find a thread that blunt posted in and every time someone says penis, thats one vote towards your car running rich, every time a homosexual reference is made, one vote towards lean. Might even be more effective than the gauge!

[nando]

Although you can leave the stock harness alone and wire it into the plug for the o2 sensor.

that's too obvious :p

[asubimmer]

he doesn't even have to do that - the LC-1 has a narroband output.

I am aware of that, he said that he didn't want to mess w/ the stock harness. Although you can leave the stock harness alone and wire it into the plug for the o2 sensor. I had an AEM wideband that also could put out a narrowband signal, but I only used it for about a month and then sold it.

[nando]

you don't have to put it into your ecu. you can have 2 o2 sensors ;)

he doesn't even have to do that - the LC-1 has a narroband output.