Dry sump on m50/s50, m52

[DrMcDave]

how much would it cost to dry sump one of these engines to fit it into an ix without modifying the oil pan. I have no desire to deal with the oil pan issues. If its ridiculously expensive i'll buy turbo parts and go that route.

[trent]

Re: Dry sump on m50/s50, m52

how much would it cost to dry sump one of these engines to fit it into an ix without modifying the oil pan. I have no desire to deal with the oil pan issues. If its ridiculously expensive i'll buy turbo parts and go that route.

With a dry sump you have to modify the oil pan, so I am not sure what you are asking.

[DrMcDave]

Re: Dry sump on m50/s50, m52

how much would it cost to dry sump one of these engines to fit it into an ix without modifying the oil pan. I have no desire to deal with the oil pan issues. If its ridiculously expensive i'll buy turbo parts and go that route.

With a dry sump you have to modify the oil pan, so I am not sure what you are asking.

i don't know either lol. Apparently you can avoid having to have a custom oil pan made to work with an m50 if you do a dry sump. I could be completely wrong but i think i read that somewhere. Basically i know nothing about dry sump systems. so i am mostly talking about my ass.

i have an ix

[E30-323ti]

Firstly are you trying to keep it 4wd??? And put in a M50??

With the M20, doesn't the oil pan support part of the front drive shafts??
Why couldn't you recreate this on a E34 M50 oil pan by cutting up the M20 oil pan and getting the req'd pieces welded into the E34 M50 pan??

[Jon325i]

A custom oil pan may not be necessary. You could probably have a stock one modified to make it work for your particular application. Seeing that the pans are aluminum which requires skilled welding, you will want a core that has been thoroughly cleaned (or a new one if you can track it down).

A plus (of sorts) with doing something like this is that if you modify the pan so the sump area is shortend a bit (made shallower), this will give you some precious ground clearance which is always desirable.....particularly with the M50 swap since the E34 pan sits quite low.

Jon

[Snowmann]

hah have fun trying to get that pup cleaned, you would need to get it dipped in acid, it needs to be extremely clean for something like this. I dont even believe hot tanking it would get it clean enough.

[kylebes1]

thng is you will not know how to modify the pan unless you have the engine in the car. The used oil pan I recieved (e34 one) was clean eough to eat off of. i do not think it would take more than a couple hours and two or three bottles of grease remover.

I think a all wheel drive e30 would be a great solution for the terible traction we suffer out back.

[DrMcDave]

thng is you will not know how to modify the pan unless you have the engine in the car. The used oil pan I recieved (e34 one) was clean eough to eat off of. i do not think it would take more than a couple hours and two or three bottles of grease remover.

I think a all wheel drive e30 would be a great solution for the terible traction we suffer out back.

kind of, the awd system is not capable of supporting big hp. A just emailed a guy in sweden who said he is working on the drivetrain issues. Big hp and awd would be a sweet combination especially off the line.

The guy in sweden had a custom oil pan made from an e34 oil pan. The half shafts pass through the pan.

[kylebes1]

so is the front drive section too weak for mcuh hp?

[DrMcDave]

so is the front drive section too weak for mcuh hp?

yeah its the problem point. I think a custom xfer case of some sort would make hte car a lot of fun with high hp, because its rwd oriented, instead of fwd oriented like the wrx. Makes it feel more like a rwd car instaed of awd. We'll see what the sweden guy comes up with.

[M-technik-3]

BMW E34 5 Series




The E34 5 series was introduced in 1988. It was available as 4 door sedan.
There were five models available: 520i, 525i, 530i, 535i and 524td. All models
received the engines frome the old E28 5 series. Only the 528i was replaced with
a 530i wich had 188 HP. The 525i received the six cylinder from the 325i so it
now had 170 HP. In 1989 the 518i with a four cylinder engine was introduced.
This model had the M40 engine from the E30 3 series wich had 113 HP. In 1990
a new 24 valve six cylinder engine was introduced. The 530i went out of production
so only the 520i and 525i received this engine. In 1991 the 524td was replaced with
a 525tds. This model had the new M51 six cylinder diesel engine wich had 143 HP.
In 1992 a 525ix with four wheel drive came available. There was also a new touring
introduced wich was available as 520i, 525i and 525ix. In 1993 the 518i received
the new M43 four cylinder and came available as touring. The 530i and 540i eight
cylinder where also introduced and there now also was a 525td available. In 1995
a new 5 series was introduced. The E34 5 series sedan went out of production.
The E34 5 series touring where still available until 1996.

http://www.bmwinfo.com/25300.html

[kylebes1]

I wonder if it had a m50 or m20?

[M-technik-3]

M50 that's why I posted data... Only 92-95 E34/16 had M50's

[kylebes1]

ok ok

But will it all line up properly, just because it was in the e34 "ix" does not mean it will work for the e30 "ix"

[M-technik-3]

Couldn't tell you but maybe someone from one of our UK fans knows someone who has done one.

I have been looking for info. It has to be out there.