New Lollipops to eliminate the need to use 96+ M3 arms

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  • jrdeamicis
    E30 Modder
    • Nov 2008
    • 956

    #1

    New Lollipops to eliminate the need to use 96+ M3 arms

    I have on the mill right now new Lollipops that give proper caster for 5 lug swaps on stock e30 arms.

    Price point is below the THR Eyeball arms.

    There will be two versions ones for people who already have 96+ arms and ones for want to use E30 or 95 m3 Arms.

    Feeler go!
    Past Car : E30 S50 6 Speed 5 Lug 3.73
    Current : Z3 S50 OBD2 (Smog Legal) 6 Speed BBS RN Dual Ear Diff
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  • Dominic49
    E30 Fanatic
    • Feb 2007
    • 1373

    #2
    how much closer to the first mounting bolt are these than the treehouse bushings


    pics?

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    • jrdeamicis
      E30 Modder
      • Nov 2008
      • 956

      #3
      Originally posted by Dominic49
      how much closer to the first mounting bolt are these than the treehouse bushings


      pics?
      Well that is super secret. THREBA are E30 M3 Offset. Supposedly they are a TAD bit closer for a TAD bit more caster.
      Past Car : E30 S50 6 Speed 5 Lug 3.73
      Current : Z3 S50 OBD2 (Smog Legal) 6 Speed BBS RN Dual Ear Diff
      ___________________________________________
      BNB Designs
      Engine Swaps, Fabrication, Innovation, General Repair
      Richmond CA
      Julian 848-248-8029

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      • Dominic49
        E30 Fanatic
        • Feb 2007
        • 1373

        #4
        why is this super secret?

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        • Dillinger
          Wrencher
          • Mar 2009
          • 285

          #5
          Originally posted by Dominic49
          why is this super secret?


          R&D people know how to keep secrets or they have to commute to China for work at the new McDonald's in Tiananmen Square.

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          • E30-323ti
            Grease Monkey
            • Feb 2004
            • 328

            #6
            Originally posted by Dominic49
            why is this super secret?
            My Q exactly.

            We don't want the 3d CAD file to undo the guy's hard work.

            The single measurement is enough to determine/satisfy us that these will do what he say's they will.

            Besides, as soon as he sells one, they can be reverse engineered and sent to China anyway!!
            292rwhp E30 :D

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            • Mossman
              E30 Mastermind
              • Apr 2006
              • 1961

              #7
              damn I wish I hadn't sold my bed to make room for the boxes and boxes of 96+ m3 control arms I've been hoarding.

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              • Liam
                Mod Crazy
                • Mar 2009
                • 753

                #8
                Originally posted by E30-323ti
                My Q exactly.

                We don't want the 3d CAD file to undo the guy's hard work.

                The single measurement is enough to determine/satisfy us that these will do what he say's they will.

                Besides, as soon as he sells one, they can be reverse engineered and sent to China anyway!!
                All this and a few other things is why there is just some shit you can't get anymore.

                Who is going to spend time and money on R&D when the knock off sells for less than you can have it made six months after your brainchild hits the market?
                I'm Not Right in the Head | Random Rants and other Nonsense1st Order Logic Failure: Association fallacy, this type of fallacy can be expressed as (∃xS : φ(x)) → (∀xS : φ(x)), meaning "if there exists any x in the set S so that a property φ is true for x, then for all x in S the property φ must be true".

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                • jrdeamicis
                  E30 Modder
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 956

                  #9
                  Originally posted by E30-323ti
                  My Q exactly.

                  We don't want the 3d CAD file to undo the guy's hard work.

                  The single measurement is enough to determine/satisfy us that these will do what he say's they will.

                  Besides, as soon as he sells one, they can be reverse engineered and sent to China anyway!!


                  Originally posted by Mossman
                  damn I wish I hadn't sold my bed to make room for the boxes and boxes of 96+ m3 control arms I've been hoarding.


                  Originally posted by Liam
                  All this and a few other things is why there is just some shit you can't get anymore.

                  Who is going to spend time and money on R&D when the knock off sells for less than you can have it made six months after your brainchild hits the market?
                  These brackets should put the wheel @ proper E30 caster w/ a moderate drop. Other productions of the bracket will be designed for more drop to ensure best wheel placement.

                  If I sold these brackets for 50 bucks straight outta china would you strap them on your car?

                  I have seen a couple versions of lollipops out there from threaded rod w/ a monoball to THR. The mass production version of these will be a solid unit. The threaded rod mono-ball does not make it very ideal for street use.

                  I am making the brackets to pass them onto the community to save some time and money. Not to make shit tons of cash. I already have a job :)

                  The price point would be between 120-150. Also with the bracket you knock out two birds with one stone.

                  No need for the Offset LCAB and no need for the 96+ control arms. In consideration of how much E30 M3 stuff is and how expensive new control arms can get. $140 bucks seems pretty fair.
                  Past Car : E30 S50 6 Speed 5 Lug 3.73
                  Current : Z3 S50 OBD2 (Smog Legal) 6 Speed BBS RN Dual Ear Diff
                  ___________________________________________
                  BNB Designs
                  Engine Swaps, Fabrication, Innovation, General Repair
                  Richmond CA
                  Julian 848-248-8029

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                  • jrdeamicis
                    E30 Modder
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 956

                    #10
                    Its super secret!
                    Past Car : E30 S50 6 Speed 5 Lug 3.73
                    Current : Z3 S50 OBD2 (Smog Legal) 6 Speed BBS RN Dual Ear Diff
                    ___________________________________________
                    BNB Designs
                    Engine Swaps, Fabrication, Innovation, General Repair
                    Richmond CA
                    Julian 848-248-8029

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                    • bimmer630
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1228

                      #11
                      I want a set when they are done.

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                      • jrdeamicis
                        E30 Modder
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 956

                        #12
                        I will let you know when they are ready for sale.
                        Past Car : E30 S50 6 Speed 5 Lug 3.73
                        Current : Z3 S50 OBD2 (Smog Legal) 6 Speed BBS RN Dual Ear Diff
                        ___________________________________________
                        BNB Designs
                        Engine Swaps, Fabrication, Innovation, General Repair
                        Richmond CA
                        Julian 848-248-8029

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                        • xLibelle
                          R3VLimited
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 2673

                          #13
                          i guess a little toe out durring breaking or hard turns isnt gonna kill ya

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                          • surebimmer
                            E30 Modder
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 978

                            #14
                            Are you still working on these?

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                            • jrdeamicis
                              E30 Modder
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 956

                              #15
                              yup.

                              Part of the problem is as you increase the point for the LCA that the rear rim will start to catch the sway bar for cars w/ large tires / rims.
                              Past Car : E30 S50 6 Speed 5 Lug 3.73
                              Current : Z3 S50 OBD2 (Smog Legal) 6 Speed BBS RN Dual Ear Diff
                              ___________________________________________
                              BNB Designs
                              Engine Swaps, Fabrication, Innovation, General Repair
                              Richmond CA
                              Julian 848-248-8029

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