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    Problems with caster and camber?

    I have been running my setup for a year or two now and I just recently updated it but i am now having problems.

    Orginaly my setup was e36 M3 spindles, E36 m3 brakes, E36 M3 Bilstein struts 1995 M3 Arms and 1997 bushings and Ireland Race Strut camber plates. I was able to get it to allign within specs and set it to -3.0 camber.

    I just recently updated the 1995 arms and put in a used set of 1997 arms as well as Treehouse LCAB's and now I am having problems getting it alligned. I was only able to get -2.2 camber with the left plate maxed out and the right not maxed and now I have 9.3 caster left and 8.6 Right.

    Do you think that a bent arm could be causing this problem?
    Is it possible that the strut is bent?

    I know that there are alot of people in this section that understand suspension better than I do so any help is apprecaited.
    1989 332IS -S-Fiddy Four-Some weight removed.
    5 lug E36 M3 Brakes Coilovers and LTW's and No ABS.

    #2
    to play with your camber you can pickup some of these

    http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html..._ID=TSU3690036
    or these
    http://store.bimmerworld.com/e36-fro...-kit-p610.aspx
    Last edited by rkettner; 03-15-2010, 08:51 AM. Reason: added 1 more link

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      #3
      Those are cool thanks. I can problably use those to square my current setup. I am leaning towards a bent strut at this time, as it could have happened pretty simply on the horrible roads here in Reno.
      1989 332IS -S-Fiddy Four-Some weight removed.
      5 lug E36 M3 Brakes Coilovers and LTW's and No ABS.

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        #4
        you need 96+ m3 control arms. 95 ones are the same as stock.

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          #5
          Just put 97 arms in and now I am having the issue.
          1989 332IS -S-Fiddy Four-Some weight removed.
          5 lug E36 M3 Brakes Coilovers and LTW's and No ABS.

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            #6
            What are your symptoms?

            "BMW Style 32 Poster-Child"
            HTTP://WWW.CLAVINZERO.COM/e30-5-lug
            **(My Guide to E36 M3/Z3 1.9L 5-lug Swap)
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              #7
              My drivers caster and camber are way off of my passenger unit. I am leaning towards a bent strut. It is the only way that I can explain the caster issue. Either that or a bent spindle. Any recomendation on how I can measure if the stut is bent
              1989 332IS -S-Fiddy Four-Some weight removed.
              5 lug E36 M3 Brakes Coilovers and LTW's and No ABS.

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                #8
                Were they used struts you stuck in, or new? I went new with mine and my measurements aren't perfectly symmetrical either. Very close though.


                "BMW Style 32 Poster-Child"
                HTTP://WWW.CLAVINZERO.COM/e30-5-lug
                **(My Guide to E36 M3/Z3 1.9L 5-lug Swap)
                **

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by clavinZERO View Post
                  Were they used struts you stuck in, or new? I went new with mine and my measurements aren't perfectly symmetrical either. Very close though.
                  Those are almost identical to my initial specs post E36 5lugging.
                  Front had brand new CA's, CAB's & Shocks also, then later added camber plates.
                  292rwhp E30 :D

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                    #10
                    maybe the parts store sent you non-M control arms?

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                      #11
                      I checked all the part number they are legit.

                      Mine look very similar but reversed. I guess I will tune it in with camber caster plates and shims.

                      LF RF
                      -2.3 Camber -2.2 Camber
                      9.3 Caster 8.6 Caster

                      Rear is F-ed up from PO's rear ender
                      LR RR
                      -2.6 -3.4
                      -.09Toe .20 Toe

                      I am building a new subframe for the rear.
                      1989 332IS -S-Fiddy Four-Some weight removed.
                      5 lug E36 M3 Brakes Coilovers and LTW's and No ABS.

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                        #12
                        So I removed my adjustable endlinks and reset them to be perfectly neutral at ride height. The funny thing is that now the car pull to the right hard and the wheel is turned to the right. I guess I will find out whats up when I get my new Ground Control plates in.
                        1989 332IS -S-Fiddy Four-Some weight removed.
                        5 lug E36 M3 Brakes Coilovers and LTW's and No ABS.

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