So who has figured out the budget BBK for the 318ti setup?

[NickL]

Ive tried and tried to find a definitive answer for budget larger brakes on the ti rear setup and can't come to a conclusion. I understand there is the massive option, but I'm not currently interested in dropping that kind of coin.

Ive heard of the 330i rear setup, but can't find clarification on parts needed.

Having a working parking brake does not matter to me if that is the only thing holding back the 330i rear setup.

Just looking for some answers from people who have managed to upgrade the rear calipers to ones of larger piston size. I will be running E36M3 fronts.

[Bullet Ride]

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showpost.php?p=4247045&postcount=255

[NickL]

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...&postcount=255

Interesting. Sort of solves my problem, but not really. He's using the nasieg kit which is no longer produced from what I've heard. I'm also looking to do without any bracket adapter out back, using oem caliper brackets of some form.

[Bullet Ride]

Interesting. Sort of solves my problem, but not really. He's using the nasieg kit which is no longer produced from what I've heard. I'm also looking to do without any bracket adapter out back, using oem caliper brackets of some form.

I haven't heard of any significantly larger callipers that bolt up without the use of an adapter bracket, and I doubt there many (if there even are any). Even the Massive option you mention uses a bracket...



Getting a bracket made up isn't the end of the world, just a few simple dimensions required.

[sumolbandit]

Massive doesnt sell the kit anymore. I just tried to buy one and said he will only do them again if he has 10+ orders.

[ngampleh]

check this

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=325258

[Massive Lee]

What about fitting rear Z3M trailing arms? Then you get big vented rotors and their correct calipers to match the front piston size. Obviously, you need to check the car's weight distribution... Z3M uses rear e36 M3 vented rotors.

But if you track, you will realize that the price of brake pads for a BMW caliper are almost twice the price as pads for a Wilwood Superlite caliper. ;-)

[ngampleh]

what about fitting rear z3m trailing arms? Then you get big vented rotors and their correct calipers to match the front piston size. Obviously, you need to check the car's weight distribution... Z3m uses rear e36 m3 vented rotors.

But if you track, you will realize that the price of brake pads for a bmw caliper are almost twice the price as pads for a wilwood superlite caliper. ;-)

^ +1

[Bullet Ride]

That'd be great if used Z3M rear trailing arms were a dime a dozen, unfortunately they are not a plentiful resource... unless you want to spend $800-$1000 per trailing arm for BNIB parts.

[Massive Lee]

I suppose that's the price tag for fitting 5 bolt wheels on an e30 ;-)
I spent the past 10 years trying to understand people who were doing that. ;-) 5 lugs is for heavy and powerful cars.

[Bullet Ride]

I suppose that's the price tag for fitting 5 bolt wheels on an e30 ;-)
I spent the past 10 years trying to understand people who were doing that. ;-) 5 lugs is for heavy and powerful cars.

It is and it isn't. As we've all seen there are other proven methods that can be done for much cheaper. I think the main motivation for people wanting to adapt the OEM parts is that if they need to they can go to their local parts store pretty much anywhere and get pads/rotors/rebuilt callipers off the shelf usually, or at worst next day.

Whereas if you make a kit out of an after market performance brand (i.e. wilwood), unless you're near a distributor or want to pay some big fees, you likely can't get replacement parts next day delivery.

I know that if I raced for a hobby, I'd rather use an OEM calliper and be able to run to a local dealership or parts shop to get a replacement should I need one, rather than having to carry around a set of back-ups all the time just in case I happen to need one at some point. Then again... maybe that's because I haven't substantially raced for a hobby yet lol.

I agree with you, in that it's not worth upgrading to larger brakes unless you've added at least 20% more power and traction to the car.

[NickL]

I think I'm going with the srs-concept brackets to run e36m3 rears/rotors. Loose the ebrake but I'm not concerned about that anyways. I'll report back with results.

[a70droptop]

srs concept e36 M3 front too!

IDK if you've seen it but srs concept also makes a front lolipop to correct the geometry and run complete e36 M3 struts, brakes, and control arms in the e30's

[M-technik-3]

There is a set up on 318Ti.org using mix match of stuff buy with loss of intergrated parking brake.