Any hope for E36 front struts w/o going 5 lug?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Digitalwave
    is a poseur
    • Oct 2003
    • 6280

    #1

    Any hope for E36 front struts w/o going 5 lug?

    Is there any possible way to use an E36 coilover system (that includes the struts) on an E30 WITHOUT swapping to 5 lug? Perhaps cut the bottom off an E30 strut and weld it to the E36 strut to maintain the correct mounting points? Here is an E36 pic for reference:


    RISING EDGE

    Let's drive fast and have fun.
  • mattdk318i
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jun 2006
    • 3953

    #2
    yea man, it will work. I just did this the other day. but in reverse
    sigpic

    Comment

    • Danny
      Moderator
      • Feb 2008
      • 14216

      #3
      ^Explain please.

      Comment

      • mattdk318i
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jun 2006
        • 3953

        #4
        Im not sure of the diameter of the E36 strut. But you cut the top of the E30 strut(to use the threads) and then use the bottom half of the E36 strut.
        Its essentially a cheap way(temp) to keep your good coilovers and struts. I had brand new billy sports and ground control. And i wasnt about to invest in any more suspension parts at the moment.

        thats why i mentioned i did this same thing in reverse. But i have a feeling the e36 strut is too large to fit in the E30 tube.
        sigpic

        Comment

        • Digitalwave
          is a poseur
          • Oct 2003
          • 6280

          #5
          Originally posted by mattdk318i
          Im not sure of the diameter of the E36 strut. But you cut the top of the E30 strut(to use the threads) and then use the bottom half of the E36 strut.
          Its essentially a cheap way(temp) to keep your good coilovers and struts. I had brand new billy sports and ground control. And i wasnt about to invest in any more suspension parts at the moment.

          thats why i mentioned i did this same thing in reverse. But i have a feeling the e36 strut is too large to fit in the E30 tube.
          You are way off base. E36's don't use strut inserts like E30's. I basically want to use the entire strut/shock/coilover/spring assembly from an E36, but the bottom mounting points are different.

          The 2 struts on the left...


          RISING EDGE

          Let's drive fast and have fun.

          Comment

          • mattdk318i
            No R3VLimiter
            • Jun 2006
            • 3953

            #6
            now that ive reread tj's post im confused
            sigpic

            Comment

            • mattdk318i
              No R3VLimiter
              • Jun 2006
              • 3953

              #7
              then no. not without a pain the the ass amount of modification.
              sigpic

              Comment

              • etxxz
                R3VLimited
                • Feb 2006
                • 2085

                #8
                Originally posted by mattdk318i
                then no. not without a pain the the ass amount of modification.
                yeah you are talking about something different. infact two/three threads down is the writeup i did on that.

                as for the e36 not using inserts, well lets just say that is something a bmw sales would tell you...but, those coilovers you show are meant to bolt onto e36 spindles. You can't use them...atleast w/o exteeeeensive modifications that i would not even consider. You can use the rear though.
                No more e30s for me.
                88 black BMW OBDII 332is dedicated track [sold]
                88 BMW OBDII bronzit 332is [RIP 03/08]
                91 BMW 325i [sold]
                86 Corolla 'Ae86' HB 20v trd [sold]
                http://youtube.com/watch?v=pTj7Hn9v5Rs

                Comment

                • Rocla
                  E30 Modder
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 922

                  #9
                  Maybe the tube could be remover from e30 strut, the make the same thread as in those pictured e36 struts to bottom of the e30 sturt.

                  Otherwise no.
                  Current:

                  BMW 320i 2d 2.0 m20 -88
                  BMW 325i Cabriolet 2.5 m50 -88
                  BMW 316i touring 1.6 m40 -90
                  BMW 320i 4d 2,2 m54 -01

                  Comment

                  • Hellabad
                    E30 Modder
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 807

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mattdk318i
                    Im not sure of the diameter of the E36 strut. But you cut the top of the E30 strut(to use the threads) and then use the bottom half of the E36 strut.
                    Its essentially a cheap way(temp) to keep your good coilovers and struts.
                    Speaking of using replaceable e30 "guts" in an e36 "sealed" housing:

                    e30 struts are getting too hard to find, to waste them by cutting them up. The threaded part at the top of the e30 is the same as a lot of other cars, plus you can use wrecked struts. You need the top 4 inches or so from any Celica, 240Z, 280Zx, e28, e24, 510, ae86 whatever.

                    If you can find bent ones from your JDM old school friends, you can sell your perfectly good e30 strut housings.

                    Jay
                    Last edited by Hellabad; 09-09-2008, 07:04 AM.
                    Here is my photo gallery answering common questions about Ground Control Suspension, and e30 suspension problems in general.
                    Ground Control Gallery

                    The Ground Control facebook page: Dragged, kicking and screaming into social media to see what happens next.
                    Ground Control facebook page

                    Comment

                    • Digitalwave
                      is a poseur
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 6280

                      #11
                      Thank you for that completely irrelevent reply to this topic (and I still don't understand what you were trying to describe).

                      RISING EDGE

                      Let's drive fast and have fun.

                      Comment

                      • Hellabad
                        E30 Modder
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 807

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Digitalwave
                        Thank you for that completely irrelevent reply to this topic (and I still don't understand what you were trying to describe).
                        I edited my post so you can see what is relevant about it. There is good info in this thread. But... these are people who are thinking out of the box, and doing things to e30s that do not have directions or a "how-to" posted somewhere.

                        So sometimes it just may not seem relevant to you until you catch up.

                        Thats all.
                        Here is my photo gallery answering common questions about Ground Control Suspension, and e30 suspension problems in general.
                        Ground Control Gallery

                        The Ground Control facebook page: Dragged, kicking and screaming into social media to see what happens next.
                        Ground Control facebook page

                        Comment

                        • Digitalwave
                          is a poseur
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 6280

                          #13
                          I wasn't talking about using E30 guts in an E36 housing, I don't even know where you got that idea from. What you posted really has nothing to do with what this thread is about.

                          RISING EDGE

                          Let's drive fast and have fun.

                          Comment

                          • FredK
                            R3V OG
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 14747

                            #14
                            hm. The question is, on those DDM coilovers, how is the adjustable, threaded part attached to the lower red part. Does it screw on, and get secured by the lower jam nut?

                            Comment

                            • blueapplesoda
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 1904

                              #15
                              those look like those ksport type coilovers....36way adjustable lol but hey jdm kiddies love that shit but it works for them.

                              honestly it wouldn't be feasible. I think you would have to cut through the e30 king pin right around the base of the tube (where the control arm and tie-rod bolt to) and make some sort of adapter plate so it bolts up where the e36 king pin assembly would go on the new strut.

                              ORR

                              you could cut the welds off the bottom of the e30 strut tube, pull the tube out and cut a slit in the middle of the casted base where the tube fits, then weld a bolt/clamp type deal like the kinds they use on bmx seat posts or double wishbone type setups to clamp the shock tube into the kingpin assy.

                              or

                              probably better off casting a new part wtf cheezits

                              All-Red/MHW style Professional Tinted Tail lights
                              PnP EMS, fuel injectors, wideband o2 systems

                              Comment

                              Working...