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  • Wesley Vocino
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 59

    #1

    Suspension Installation Problems

    I was just wondering what problems people have had changing the suspensions on their e30s. I might do it with a friend, but if it is too difficult il probably do it with my gfs dad (head machanic at bmw).

    I would like to know what I am in for before I start this project.
    Vocino
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  • Van Westervelt
    R3V OG
    • May 2006
    • 9365

    #2
    Hardest part is just dropping the tie rods and control arms off the strut housing. Sometimes its easy, sometimes its a pita. I did a full suspension without any specialty tools in my driveway in 2 hours. It can be done.
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    • ldsbeaker
      No R3VLimiter
      • Aug 2004
      • 3098

      #3
      20 yr old cars + difficult bolts = hard to do.
      I did a suspension last week on a 300C, and man, was I glad that I had air tools...
      Slicktop City!

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      • Brew
        No R3VLimiter
        • Oct 2003
        • 3060

        #4
        If you have access to a lift, I would for sure use it. It's also nice to have the BMW spring compressor tool. Make sure to get new collars for the front struts, and start nailing them with PB blaster the night before you do the job.
        '91 318is
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        • Garageaholic
          Freestyle Fabricator
          • Dec 2005
          • 5204

          #5
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          • Wesley Vocino
            Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 59

            #6
            I was told that I might have to change the balljoints or tierods in the front, is that possible?

            And I dont think il need a spring compressor because im getting new shocks and springs
            Vocino
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            • FredK
              R3V OG
              • Oct 2003
              • 14747

              #7
              You need a spring compressor to install the springs. Any set will do. I use a set of the threaded-rod type, and using an impact the job is pretty quick.

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              • golde30
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2003
                • 11464

                #8
                yes its a good idea to change out the controls arms and tie rid ends, especially if you have never replaced them before. there is a good chance they will be destroyed while trying to remove them from the strut assembly if they are really on there.
                IG: @Baye30

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                • E30Driv3R
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • May 2004
                  • 1169

                  #9
                  Originally posted by golde30
                  yes its a good idea to change out the controls arms and tie rid ends, especially if you have never replaced them before. there is a good chance they will be destroyed while trying to remove them from the strut assembly if they are really on there.
                  ya, i destroyed mine when i did my suspension.

                  i am pretty sure in order to change ball joints you need to get a whole new control arm. someone correct me if im wrong.
                  Dan Zickel
                  1995 M3, 1991 318iS, 1987 325iS

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                  • Wesley Vocino
                    Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 59

                    #10
                    My friend has a sprigns compressor, so thats not a problem.

                    My baljoints were changed, but my tie rods are now finished, and im gonna replace them soon after I install my suspension.
                    Vocino
                    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...o/MyCar051.jpg

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                    • egk2
                      R3VLimited
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 2426

                      #11
                      I'd let your gf's dad pull your car into his bay after hours,
                      things are so much easier when you have the right tools and
                      equipment. These old cars tend to fight you.

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                      • gm9142l
                        Noobie
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 32

                        #12
                        Originally posted by E30Driv3R
                        i am pretty sure in order to change ball joints you need to get a whole new control arm. someone correct me if im wrong.
                        No, with the steel control arms you can press the old ball joints out and new ones in. Its pretty easy to do and a heck of a lot cheaper than a new pair of control arms.
                        Greg
                        74 914 2.0 | 84 318i | 86 944 | 05 325xi

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                        • Wesley Vocino
                          Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 59

                          #13
                          Ya, the problem is my gfs dad said hed only have time to do it in about 2 weeks or so. I want it done like now!!! So I think il try it out with my friend and see how that goes. My friend did his suspension, and some other dudes. Hopefully a bimmer wont be much harder.
                          Vocino
                          http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...o/MyCar051.jpg

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                          • E30Driv3R
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • May 2004
                            • 1169

                            #14
                            Originally posted by gm9142l
                            No, with the steel control arms you can press the old ball joints out and new ones in. Its pretty easy to do and a heck of a lot cheaper than a new pair of control arms.

                            Well... i gut got raped in the ass...... :(

                            I have been told by alot of people that they coundnt... shit oh well

                            and they said they repalced my control arm bushings, and i got back and there is no way that they knew i had the offset bushings. i am gonna light that place on fire!!
                            Dan Zickel
                            1995 M3, 1991 318iS, 1987 325iS

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                            • Brew
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 3060

                              #15
                              Originally posted by E30Driv3R
                              Well... i gut got raped in the ass...... :(

                              I have been told by alot of people that they coundnt... shit oh well

                              and they said they repalced my control arm bushings, and i got back and there is no way that they knew i had the offset bushings. i am gonna light that place on fire!!
                              My guess is the reason most shops won't replace the balljoints separately is because the extra labor of pressing the old balljoints out and the new balljoints in offsets the cost of the complete control arm.
                              '91 318is
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