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  • jlevie
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 13530

    #31
    Originally posted by mutty
    The OP did not say anything about track use; until I have seen a failure on the race car with slotted/drillrd rotors I will hold onto my opinion.
    A friend of mine was badly injured in a wreck caused by failure of a cross drilled rotor under braking. There's one example for you.
    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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    • Aptyp
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2008
      • 6584

      #32
      it's funny how people who talk shit about getting drilled/slotted rotors for the bling factor...


      same few shitheads that install euro plates under their state plates and german check panels.
      Last edited by Aptyp; 09-10-2009, 10:24 AM.

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      • quickervicar
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Jun 2009
        • 1197

        #33
        My experience is based on my Passat, not my E30, so take it or leave it.

        Cross-drilled lasted a good long while, were quiet, had good pad life, performed very well on mountain passes, but eventually cracked. Replaced with:

        EBC Dimpled/Slotted which performed well (especially in rain), but ate pads quickly and were incredibly noisy. "Airplaning" was expected, but not to the extent that I experienced. I also tend to believe that all the surface area missing from the rotor really reduced my swept area. These were replaced with:

        ECS Tuning "Rally" Slotted cut from Brembo blanks. The slots were divided into 3 staggered cuts instead of one big cut. The pads really bit well (again, really noticeable in the rain) and lasted long enough. No airplaning, either. I would buy these again, but I believe they discontinued them.

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        • Wh33lhop
          R3V OG
          • Feb 2009
          • 11705

          #34
          Originally posted by Aptyp
          it's funny how people who talk shit about getting drilled/slotted rotors for the bling factor...


          same few shitheads that install euro plates under their state plates and german check panels.
          Eh. Slotted/drilled with stock sized rotors looks retarded anyway. I'll stick to blanks, until, pray tell, some day I land a BBK.
          paint sucks

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          • bzboardz
            E30 Enthusiast
            • May 2009
            • 1096

            #35
            i need to do my brakes soon also this is good info. anyone have anything to say about ATE premium one rotors?

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            • nando
              Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 34827

              #36
              Originally posted by Aptyp
              it's funny how people who talk shit about getting drilled/slotted rotors for the bling factor...


              same few shitheads that install euro plates under their state plates and german check panels.
              I don't see a europlate anywhere on my car?

              and yes, they do look stupid on tiny brakes. what's the point bling stock E30 brakes? going to buy some of those BREMBO caliper covers while you're at it?
              Build thread

              Bimmerlabs

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              • kencopperwheat
                King of Kegstands
                • Oct 2003
                • 14396

                #37
                Can you turn cross drilled ones if they become a tad warped?
                Originally posted by Gruelius
                and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                • quickervicar
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1197

                  #38
                  Originally posted by kencopperwheat
                  Can you turn cross drilled ones if they become a tad warped?
                  Usually, yes. But it requires a special round-nosed cutter for the lathe so the holes don't grab the tooling.

                  FWIW, my Passat setup was Audi S4 calipers biting on Corrado G60 rotors

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                  • speedminded
                    Wrencher
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 291

                    #39
                    Originally posted by mutty
                    The OP did not say anything about track use; until I have seen a failure on the race car with slotted/drillrd rotors I will hold onto my opinion.
                    Find me a real RACE CAR that has cross-drilled steel rotors.

                    Cross drilling was originally done to allow gases to escape from pads made of asbestos. The gas build-up prevented the piston from clamping the pads to the rotors. Those pads have not been used for decades. There are quotes from the president of Brembo admitting that cross-drilled rotors are strictly for looks and have zero performance benefits. Removing mass from the rotors by drilling holes actually increases the temperature of the rest of the rotor so technically they reduce the performance.

                    On the street severe temperature changes like water puddles or car washes after heavy brake use can cause them to crack. On the track they WILL shatter. (See next quote)

                    Slotted rotors are 100% functional on the track, they shave the pads like a cheese grater to prevent glazing of overworked pads. A competent race team knows what pads to use for a particular track and application and rarely have that problem so blanks are sufficient.

                    Originally posted by jlevie
                    A friend of mine was badly injured in a wreck caused by failure of a cross drilled rotor under braking. There's one example for you.
                    Guessing by your race credentials, was he driving a Porsche 944 Turbo at Road Atlanta? If so this was him crashing behind my old roommate, if not then this is just another case of cross-drilled rotor failure on a car:



                    Carefully read the description to know when and where to look.
                    Last edited by speedminded; 11-28-2009, 11:34 PM.

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                    • jlevie
                      R3V OG
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 13530

                      #40
                      Originally posted by speedminded
                      Guessing by your race credentials, was he driving a Porsche 944 Turbo at Road Atlanta? If so this was him crashing behind my old roommate, if not then this is just another case of cross-drilled rotor failure on a car:



                      Carefully read the description to know when and where to look.
                      Yep that was the incident i was referring to. As I recall, Kenny said he felt/heard a bang when he went to the brakes for T7 and then the car just came around. Part of the brake rotor was found well away from the impact site.
                      The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                      Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                      • speedminded
                        Wrencher
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 291

                        #41
                        Originally posted by jlevie
                        Yep that was the incident i was referring to. As I recall, Kenny said he felt/heard a bang when he went to the brakes for T7 and then the car just came around. Part of the brake rotor was found well away from the impact site.
                        Kenny was in a coma for several hours wasn't he? They red flagged the event and everybody walked the track, they found pieces of the shattered rotor on it...
                        Last edited by speedminded; 11-29-2009, 09:16 PM.

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                        • rwh11385
                          lance_entities
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 18403

                          #42
                          Originally posted by jlevie
                          Yep that was the incident i was referring to. As I recall, Kenny said he felt/heard a bang when he went to the brakes for T7 and then the car just came around. Part of the brake rotor was found well away from the impact site.
                          Damn.

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                          • Philo
                            Ich esse kleine Kinder
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 3334

                            #43
                            But hey, don't listen to these guys. If you're not smart enough to take their advice. . . . .Well that would just be one less ignorant person I have to deal with in life.
                            -tim
                            Originally posted by Jordan
                            I like the stance
                            -Coining hip terms since 10/9/03

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