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  • CRollins
    Noobie
    • Aug 2010
    • 6

    #1

    Anybody using brake ducting?

    I'm looking for some ideas and pictures of brake ducting set ups. I've got a 325is with vents in the bumper "valence" and would like to run ducts from the vents to the center of the rotor or to the front of the caliper. Thanks.
  • jasonsnoddy
    E30 Mastermind
    • Feb 2010
    • 1900

    #2
    never been done


    Originally posted by stewie30luvr
    ooo cause i was fixing my chain tensioner and there was a black widow on the radiator so i killed it
    Originally posted by JakeP
    with a coathanger

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    • CRollins
      Noobie
      • Aug 2010
      • 6

      #3
      very helpful, thanks

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      • jasonsnoddy
        E30 Mastermind
        • Feb 2010
        • 1900

        #4
        maybe im missing something, but both my e30's have this stock.


        Originally posted by stewie30luvr
        ooo cause i was fixing my chain tensioner and there was a black widow on the radiator so i killed it
        Originally posted by JakeP
        with a coathanger

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        • e30shmobberr
          E30 Mastermind
          • Mar 2010
          • 1934

          #5
          installed in on my boss's e30 m3.

          heres the link.


          i suggest making it your self if you are worried about costs.

          Patrick - IG:niicknac
          RIP 1987 BMW 325is - S50'd ZF 6-speed, flared, bagged

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          • e30shmobberr
            E30 Mastermind
            • Mar 2010
            • 1934

            #6
            Originally posted by jasonsnoddy
            maybe im missing something, but both my e30's have this stock.
            yes they have to front brake ducts, but they dont come with the proper brake duct hoses and the backing plate to shoot air at the center of the rotor.

            Patrick - IG:niicknac
            RIP 1987 BMW 325is - S50'd ZF 6-speed, flared, bagged

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            • jasonsnoddy
              E30 Mastermind
              • Feb 2010
              • 1900

              #7
              i seeeeeeeeeee


              Originally posted by stewie30luvr
              ooo cause i was fixing my chain tensioner and there was a black widow on the radiator so i killed it
              Originally posted by JakeP
              with a coathanger

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              • JGood
                R3V OG
                • Jan 2004
                • 7959

                #8
                There is an extensive thread on bf.c in the track section about brake ducts, with some ideas and materials sources. I assume this is for a track car?
                85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                e30 restoration and V8 swap
                24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                • 619E30
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 1753

                  #9
                  Originally posted by audiquattrot
                  bimmers b4 b*tches....remember that.
                  1990 Alpinweiss 325i - secret 500whp build
                  2000 Audi S4 B5 Laser Red
                  1990 Nissan 240sx - Drift Missile
                  2006 CBR600RR

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                  • CRollins
                    Noobie
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 6

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JGood
                    There is an extensive thread on bf.c in the track section about brake ducts, with some ideas and materials sources. I assume this is for a track car?
                    It's a track car in progress and from experience with my subaru i'm pretty hard on brakes. I read that the e30's are lacking in the brake department as well, any truth to this? Power wise the car is stock but it has h&r race springs w/ bilsteins, sways, ate blue fluid, steel lines and hawk hp+ pads. Kumho xs's are going on this week.

                    I'm guessing Bf.c is bimmerforums.com? I'll have to poke around over there then. I was hoping for something e30 specific.

                    I did notice the bumper ducts but i'd like to take it a step further and channel the air right into the rotor. Those pieces above look very nice and they don't look too hard to duplicate.

                    I wonder if i could use the current dust shields, cut a 2" hole in them and weld a short piece of 2" pipe to them? Anybody done this?

                    Thanks for the replies.

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                    • jlevie
                      R3V OG
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 13530

                      #11
                      We routinely add brake ducts to Spec E30, KP, and ITS cars. The solution for the intake varies according to the production date of the car and what front spoiler/valence it has. Adapters replace the front backing plates and ducting is used to connect the adapters to the intakes.

                      The brakes on an E30 are more than sufficient until you get up to or above S50/52 power levels. Even then they may be adaquate, depending on the tracks run.
                      The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                      Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                      • 619E30
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 1753

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CRollins
                        Power wise the car is stock but it has h&r race springs w/ bilsteins, sways, ate blue fluid, steel lines and hawk hp+ pads. Kumho xs's are going on this week.
                        The car sounds fine the way it is, maybe some cross-drilled rotors and your set :up:
                        Originally posted by audiquattrot
                        bimmers b4 b*tches....remember that.
                        1990 Alpinweiss 325i - secret 500whp build
                        2000 Audi S4 B5 Laser Red
                        1990 Nissan 240sx - Drift Missile
                        2006 CBR600RR

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                        • SkinnyVT
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 391

                          #13
                          first step is to get rid of the HP+'s and get some real track pads, while ducts might still be needed the pads should be the first item
                          sigpic
                          '86.5 325eis Track Ho | '08 128i DD | '04 Silverado Tow Vehicle

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                          • jlevie
                            R3V OG
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 13530

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 619E30
                            The car sounds fine the way it is, maybe some cross-drilled rotors and your set :up:
                            Plain rotors are as good as it gets w/respect to brake performance. Slotted are okay, but plain rotors will very slightly out perform them. Cross-drilled rotors are a net loss, partly because of the reduction in swept are, partly because of the reduction in mass, and partly because they are more prone to cracking.
                            The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                            Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                            • JGood
                              R3V OG
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 7959

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CRollins
                              hawk hp+ pads..
                              That's your problem. HP+ are compromise pads. You compromise performance for less noise, less wear, and a lower temp range. If it's a track car, no need for that.

                              Run some Brembo or other OEM blank rotors with either Hawk HT10, PFC 01 or 06, etc... They are more then adequate for a stock powered e30 as jlevie said. If you still fade, it's probably your technique... dragging into corners, etc... the spece30 guys run about as hard as you can run an e30, and I don't believe they have any major fading issues.


                              I have an identical car setup to you, except I run r-comps and HT-10's, and I have no fade issues.
                              85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                              e30 restoration and V8 swap
                              24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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