Hardlines without dropping subframe?

[lolcantturn]

Oh man – I’m going to try to describe how I feel right now. It is a combination of two, very distinct, very intense feelings.

Rage. If you’ve ever played a D&D-type game, there’s usually a Barbarian with a “Berserker Rage” skill. Basically, strength is +5 and intelligence is –5 (or something like that). Blood boils. Eyes turn red with fury. That sort of thing. I now know how that barbarian feels. Since the troubles with my timing – for the last two weeks – with every day that passes – I have been in a dull state of growing Berserker Rage. I’m not the type to throw tools across the garage – but inside, I am seething with fury.

Despair. What if – after even this – something else goes wrong? What if I’m not up to this? What if my tools aren’t up to this? Will I ever get to drive this car? Have I been working for over six years to build a fourteen thousand dollar parts car?

Obviously, these two emotions are a long, long way from any sort of zen state – and I know this. So I get my tools ready – take deep breaths – and just do the best I can. I’m gonna try and get some sleep – and head back out tomorrow.

Dammit. Damn it all to hell. God Dammit !

It's an absolute bitch fucking job for sure. Worst that can happens is that you just reroute the hardline. That's what I ended up doing, and it might not be the "right" way, but it's surely the much easier way, and works exactly the same.

[Simon S]

Oh man – I’m going to try to describe how I feel right now. It is a combination of two, very distinct, very intense feelings.

Rage. If you’ve ever played a D&D-type game, there’s usually a Barbarian with a “Berserker Rage” skill. Basically, strength is +5 and intelligence is –5 (or something like that). Blood boils. Eyes turn red with fury. That sort of thing. I now know how that barbarian feels. Since the troubles with my timing – for the last two weeks – with every day that passes – I have been in a dull state of growing Berserker Rage. I’m not the type to throw tools across the garage – but inside, I am seething with fury.

Despair. What if – after even this – something else goes wrong? What if I’m not up to this? What if my tools aren’t up to this? Will I ever get to drive this car? Have I been working for over six years to build a fourteen thousand dollar parts car?

Obviously, these two emotions are a long, long way from any sort of zen state – and I know this. So I get my tools ready – take deep breaths – and just do the best I can. I’m gonna try and get some sleep – and head back out tomorrow.

Dammit. Damn it all to hell. God Dammit !

[Simon S]

Line came in yesterday..
So far - I'm 8+ hours in - and I don't even have the old line disconnected.

This job is a MOTHER. FUCKER.

[Charley]

You can also drop the gas tank instead of the subframe. Its still
a lot of work.

[reelizmpro]

You can do it without dropping the subframe. Those two upper lines are a bitch to get to but it can be done with two box wrenches and a lot of patience.

[Simon S]

Ug. I'm in this boat.

[Bassism]

I'm gearing up to finally get my e30 on the road this summer. The biggest problem with the car is that one of hardlines has rusted through somewhere around the T block. Naturally, I'm going to replace all the hard and soft lines.

However, I'd really like to avoid dropping the subframe, partly due to being afraid of the rust gremlins I'm likely to dig up in the process, and partly due to the cost of buying new bushings/etc. If/when I do drop it, I'd ideally like to go through and replace everything in the process.

Not having seen what it looks like in there, I was wondering if it would be possible to put new lines in working around the subframe. Is the subframe being in the way a total issue, or is it more a matter of having enough room to get the old fittings off without stripping them all to hell?

Hopefully somebody out there has some good news/ideas for me :)