Stainless Steel Brake Lines Question

[88325isboy]

ya i am going to do that after i get the new lines on.

[S14sx2nr]

shut ur mouf you dont have any on the E30!

Doesn't matter, they rock, that's all there is too it!

-Dan

[S14sx2nr]

I didnt notice a damn bit of difference in the upgrade.

I say only do them if your rubber lines are shot.

You never drive your car :D

-Dan

[MikeK]

IE makes them, they are great quality. I have them on my car.

i have a set left for $75 shipped

[Digitalwave]

i have a set left for $75 shipped

They are only $69 shipped from www.flyingbrickperformance.com/cart

[88325isboy]

they are a good deal from flying brick performance

[asubimmer]

they are a good deal from flying brick performance

most of their stuff is ;) hey and news on recaro's through them?

[uofom3]

I didnt notice a damn bit of difference in the upgrade.

I say only do them if your rubber lines are shot.

I think there is a lot of truth there...

if you take off 200k mile rubber lines and put on some stainless ones with fresh good fluid the brakes will feel better... but thats a fairly extreme case.

I think this mod might be felt more with someone who is using an upgraded MC, better than stock pads, backing plates, upgraded rotors... its just part of the system.

I'd recommend do it if you want to do a mod that certainly cannot hurt, but don't expect carbon-kevlar F1 level braking (or really any difference) with the SS line mod.

cheers,
ted

[uofom3]

oh and have fun with the lines by the subframe.. i'm sure that has been documented ;)

[iflytii]

They need to be flexible to allow suspension movement. The SS lines are still rubber but wrapped in the braid.

Actually:

"Stainless-steel" lines are made of Teflon tubing, not rubber. Teflon has a number of advantages over rubber; the chief ones are that it doesn't expand under pressure and it doesn't deteriorate with age. It also resists high temperatures and is chemically inert, so it's compatible with all brake fluids.

However, Teflon is pretty fragile, so it has to be protected from physical damage (chafing, flying rocks, etc.). Although some manufacturers armor their Teflon hoses with Kevlar, most protect the Teflon with an external sheath of braided stainless-steel wire... So that's why armored Teflon hose is usually called "stainless-steel hose". There's no such thing as a stainless-steel brake line that's "not lined with any material"; ALL stainless-steel brake lines are really Teflon lines with a protective stainless-steel-braid cover.

[modifiede30]

most of their stuff is ;) hey and news on recaro's through them?

Don't know if I'll have Recaro's but we'll have Sparco's soon. Also looking into the OMP and Cobra. Sparco's will be available first though.

The stainless lines we carry are from IE. If you're interested in the total cost, you can estimate shipping through the website for a total.

[88325isboy]

Yes i will be getting some stainless lines very soon.

[AndrewBird]

Actually:

"Stainless-steel" lines are made of Teflon tubing, not rubber. Teflon has a number of advantages over rubber; the chief ones are that it doesn't expand under pressure and it doesn't deteriorate with age. It also resists high temperatures and is chemically inert, so it's compatible with all brake fluids.

However, Teflon is pretty fragile, so it has to be protected from physical damage (chafing, flying rocks, etc.). Although some manufacturers armor their Teflon hoses with Kevlar, most protect the Teflon with an external sheath of braided stainless-steel wire... So that's why armored Teflon hose is usually called "stainless-steel hose". There's no such thing as a stainless-steel brake line that's "not lined with any material"; ALL stainless-steel brake lines are really Teflon lines with a protective stainless-steel-braid cover.

Most SS lines have a rubber coating over the teflon, then a SS sleeve and some even have a PVC or other coating over the SS to protect the SS.

[iflytii]

Most SS lines have a rubber coating over the teflon, then a SS sleeve and some even have a PVC or other coating over the SS to protect the SS.

Actually, rarely do SS lines have any coating between the teflon and outer SS casing. I've seen one mfg of tubing use a polyethylene inner liner but never have I seen a mfgr using "rubber". I would love to see the rubber inner coated lines you mention. Furthermore and unfortunatly, very few manufacturers actually coat the exterior.

As far as the exterior lining goes, it's not the SS that is being protected, it's the abrasion of the teflon caused by dirt and debree that worked through the SS weaving. Here is a clip from Stop Tech's web site that explains exterior coatings clearly:

Why do some SS lines have a clear plastic covering?

Under certain conditions, dirt and other abrasive contaminants can find their way between the SS braid and the Teflon inner hose. Over time these contaminants can be ground into the Teflon line to the point that a leak can develop. Naturally, a leak in the brake system is never a good thing.

Some manufacturers have taken the extra step to cover the SS braid with a polymeric coating to prevent contaminants from working their way into the Teflon liner. While this coating is not necessary for short-term longevity, hoses without the coating should be inspected and replaced on a more frequent basis.

[modifiede30]

For those people who are inclined to buy DOT approved rather than non-DOT approved, I now carry both at my store (www.flyingbrickperformance.com/cart).