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  • MR.LUGO
    E30 Modder
    • Aug 2010
    • 905

    #1

    Soft brakes, air leak?

    Hey guys, bled my brakes yesterday due to the pedal being very soft and spongy and pretty much hitting the floor, now after the pedal is stiff at first and then softens up and is hard at the bottom again which is even sketchier than before because it brakes unevenly. What are some signs that it might be the master cylinder or brake booster? Thanks!
    Got all da Alpine bitches mad cuz my main bitch Calypso.

  • Earendil
    E30 Mastermind
    • Jun 2009
    • 1662

    #2
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    • kickinindian
      R3VLimited
      • Jan 2012
      • 2327

      #3
      in for more info!

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      • FLG
        No R3VLimiter
        • Sep 2011
        • 3165

        #4
        Losing any fluid? If you pump the brakes do they return?

        Looks like a master cylinder issue.

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        • Andy.B
          E30 Mastermind
          • Sep 2011
          • 1650

          #5
          Bad booster would cause a vacuum leak and constantly stuff pedal.

          Sounds exactly like a bad matter. Push rod seal is holding, but the internal seals are leaking past each other.

          Sounds exactly like mine before I replaced it.

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          • MR.LUGO
            E30 Modder
            • Aug 2010
            • 905

            #6
            Originally posted by FLG
            Losing any fluid? If you pump the brakes do they return?

            Looks like a master cylinder issue.

            Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
            I don't think so, i was thinking it could be the lines. Yea the pedal does return.

            Originally posted by Andy.B
            Bad booster would cause a vacuum leak and constantly stuff pedal.

            Sounds exactly like a bad matter. Push rod seal is holding, but the internal seals are leaking past each other.

            Sounds exactly like mine before I replaced it.

            Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
            Sooo what exactly did you replace? Haha
            Got all da Alpine bitches mad cuz my main bitch Calypso.

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            • DEW
              Noobie
              • Dec 2011
              • 26

              #7
              I think he meant bad master. As in bad master cylinder.

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              • MR.LUGO
                E30 Modder
                • Aug 2010
                • 905

                #8
                Originally posted by DEW
                I think he meant bad master. As in bad master cylinder.
                Ah, i see. Makes sense. Well i guess it wouldn't hurt to replace it. Hopefully that'll do it. Thanks!
                Got all da Alpine bitches mad cuz my main bitch Calypso.

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                • Earendil
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1662

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MR.LUGO
                  Ah, i see. Makes sense. Well i guess it wouldn't hurt to replace it. Hopefully that'll do it. Thanks!
                  Couldn't hurt?
                  I suppose I don't know what people's budgets are for these things, but the two places I found online that would sell a brake master cylinder were pushing $200+

                  If I can rebuild calipers, differentials, and heads, I should be able to buy a $20 gasket set to rebuild a Brake MC instead of dropping a track days worth of money on a new one. Or am I missing something? I hope I'm missing something.
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                  1989 - E30 - M20B25 - Manual. Approx 300,000+ miles - Track Rat & Weekend Fun
                  2000 - E46 - M52TUB28 - Manual. Approx 130,000 miles - [not so] Daily Driver

                  sigpic

                  I'm looking for a Lachssilber Passenger Fender and Hood. PM if you have one or both to sell!

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                  • FLG
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 3165

                    #10
                    Just replaced mine with a 740il Mc (25mm) and love it. Brakes are super firm.

                    Paid 135ish for a new ate Mc

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                    • MR.LUGO
                      E30 Modder
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 905

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Earendil
                      Couldn't hurt?
                      I suppose I don't know what people's budgets are for these things, but the two places I found online that would sell a brake master cylinder were pushing $200+

                      If I can rebuild calipers, differentials, and heads, I should be able to buy a $20 gasket set to rebuild a Brake MC instead of dropping a track days worth of money on a new one. Or am I missing something? I hope I'm missing something.
                      Ha i kinda take back my "couldn't hurt" comment, i actually hadn't looked them up, i thought they were closer to 50-80 bucks :/ lol.
                      Got all da Alpine bitches mad cuz my main bitch Calypso.

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                      • MR.LUGO
                        E30 Modder
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 905

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FLG
                        Just replaced mine with a 740il Mc (25mm) and love it. Brakes are super firm.

                        Paid 135ish for a new ate Mc

                        Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
                        Nice i was reading up on that as an upgrade, i thought it was just the 750iL, or is it either as long as it's 25mm?
                        Got all da Alpine bitches mad cuz my main bitch Calypso.

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                        • FLG
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 3165

                          #13
                          Nope sorry think your correct.

                          Believe a 5 series one works too.


                          I'll get you a pn tonight I have the box at home

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                          • Northern
                            R3V Elite
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5075

                            #14
                            Running into what seems to be the same issue on my ix, planning to replace the calipers with some spares that actually bleed before I actually swap out the master.
                            Originally posted by priapism
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                            Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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                            • kickinindian
                              R3VLimited
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 2327

                              #15
                              Master did the trick!

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