anyone using Hawk HP+ pads on the street?

[nando]

drove another E30 with these at an autox and was very impressed. anyone using them on the street? how do the Hawk HPS compare?

[Dave]

Heeter would tell you that the HP+ make the HPS look not so good.

I have used the HP+ street and track. Good pad.

[redcarbon]

drove another E30 with these at an autox and was very impressed. anyone using them on the street? how do the Hawk HPS compare?

I have them on my 318is, I haven't put too many miles (< 1,000) on them since installing them in April (the e30 is my second car) but they work great as a pad for autocrossing (I hope to run some tracks soon) and are fine on the street once you get past the first stop and don't drag them (they do squeal, but that just means you're not braking hard enough).

They have great bite, especially when warm. But they don't make rear HP+ pads, only HPS, so I have HPS in the rear.

[Dave]

I have them on my 318is, I haven't put too many miles (< 1,000) on them since installing them in April (the e30 is my second car) but they work great as a pad for autocrossing (I hope to run some tracks soon) and are fine on the street once you get past the first stop and don't drag them (they do squeal, but that just means you're not braking hard enough).

They have great bite, especially when warm. But they don't make rear HP+ pads, only HPS, so I have HPS in the rear.

WRONG. They do make rear HP+ now. I have a set.

[BimmerTom]

I bought a combo set off evil-bay over a month ago. They work great, are a little noisy if you're grannying the brakes, and they make a lot of dust.

Couple those pads with the Falken RT-615's and they will almost put you thru the windshield on a hard stop.

Tom

[nando]

I don't really care about the noise, and my current pads dust quite a bit already. sounds like I should give them a shot, thanks guys.

oh yeah, anyone know of good deals on these? tirerack wants 75 for the fronts and 91 for the rears.

[rwh11385]

HPS are good street pads. And I prefer them off-track for less extreme braking. HP+ are pretty crazy and you can brake a lot really fast, but sometimes you don't need to cut that much speed.

for Auto-X, I'd prefer the HPS. For track/hardcore beating, HP+'s.

[IS]

HP+ do not dust much for daily driving. The compound is very hard. However, they dust substantially when being worked.

They do squeal an unnecessary amount - more than a lot of race pads I know.

They're decent for a daily driven car, however; an emergency stop on the freeway does take more effort than a normal street pad.

I have them front and rear currently, but I'll be switching to carbotech panther plus when the hawks wear out. A lot more $ though.

[Dave]

I'll disagree with IS on the dust when DD them. I find they do dust a lot even on the street - and not being flogged, BTW.

Having said that, they are a good combo track/street pad. Mind you they are not a racing pad, but they are a good DE pad.

[IS]

It's all relative - what I meant to say is that they dust no more than the street pads I had before. I'm not sure what they were but they faded very easily and when I replaced them, they were chunked.

[bmw_e30]

Heeter would tell you that the HP+ make the HPS look not so good.

I have used the HP+ street and track. Good pad.

Good for light cars. Or cars that don't see "fast" tracks.

But they are streetable, that's a huge plus.

I'm putting a pair on my M3 after this next track session.

[e9nine]

I have both HPS and HP + being put to street use. They squeal on and off and can be annoying in some situations as you would expect.

As to dusting. The HP + DUST up a STORM. Each time I wash my front wheels and hose the wheels and around the bottom strut the dirty water that flows is enough to poision the organisms living in the driveway. I am glad I have Koseis as they can stain your wheels due to the fact they cake on when mixed with rain or water so be wary when you use them with "pretty wheels" :p

I personally wouldn't categorize them as "street pads."

[Charlie]

The HP+ is definetly a street pad, I've run them for years. Great stopping ability when cold, and certainly not bad for an e30 for track usage. It's a great autox pad.

I've bumped up to HT10's for track use and am not looking back, but the HP+ is a great pad nonetheless.

-Charlie

[SpecRaceM5]

Ot: What rotors are you guys using with your HP+? I just got a set of Porterfield R-4. I meant to get the R-4s (street/autox) pads but got mixed up and ordered the wrong ones. I've decided to go with them though but want to get an equal rotor. I have dealer pricing on Porterfield and thought about getting their rotors. Does anyone else have any suggestions?

[IS]

Doesn't matter what rotors you use as long as you dont use those ebay special drilled/slotted rotors. Not only are you increasing the chances of cracks, but you're introducting more void area - therefore less friction per unit of force.

You cannot go wrong with OEM brembo rotors. They're only about $120 for a set of 4 on tirerack too.