Offset CAB increase of decrease camber?

[HerbE30]

So looking at ordering some offset cab (Condor Speed Shop of course). So I am running new sachs strut mounts. Bilstein HD. Sports. So dropped around 1.5 all round. The front camber seems a little serious at the moment without adjustment. I can barely fit a couple fingers running stock struts and basketweaves. Tires are 185/60 I believe.

Am I going to camber out and rub if installed properly? I bought cheap ones to think how I'll do the front end. When hard turning it feels like the tire sidewall flexs and the car feels like it is dipping. Is this a sign of bad cab? I assume going with solid will correct this a bit. Along with stiffer sways?

Also I do a few grassroots drift events. Will the caster effect flick? If it will, can I 180 these bushings and decrease caster?

I need a geometry 101 class. Also planning to run 46 control arms and e34 tie rod parts. I won't be able to run stock wheels without spacers, huh?

[spike68]

CABs in no way effects camber. They only effect caster which if used properly can improve stability at high speeds.

Mind supplying pics? Typically your setup shouldn't effect camber very much, but either way it could be beneficial to you. Also camber does not effect wear as much as you'd expect. Yes it wears in different places, but not any less effectively as if it were evened out.

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[kronus]

i'm not sure that op knows what camber is

[hwy84]

I can barely fit a couple fingers

Am I going to camber out and rub...

Challenge:

Who can make this thread useful by making the best jokes?

I'll start:

You have the order all wrong. Rub first, then fit a couple fingers, and then keep at it until you camber out all over yourself. Just make sure you wash your hands when you're done.

On topic:

I have no idea what your talking about. Try asking the question without using all the wordzes. I *think* your caster hamster cambered a hamper, but offset cabs may have stabbed your 5-minute abs.

[ak-]

CABs in no way effects camber.

Offset CAB's increase dynamic camber :^)

[HerbE30]

i'm not sure that op knows what camber is

^- True.

Sorry for the confusion. I was at work, reading through threads and I saw that one user stated that when you install offset/m3 cabs that it modifies caster. Followed by a rushed post lead to lots of confusion. (and many laughs for this guy) I asked this mess because, I was curious because I am running Sachs Oe strut mounts and there still appears to be a lot of /camber\ in the front. I was concerned about the tire and shock proximity.

I was also worried about the increased caster as it was allegedly going to cause stiffer turn in at lower speeds, as I don't have p/s. Which I have accepted will be very minimal.

spike68- Will post pics once offset cabs and new tie rods are installed.
hwy84- thanks haha.
ak- take it slow m8, still learning what camber is.


Hopefully this was a tad bit more logical, as it wasn't created at work, with all the work life joys.

[jeffnhiscars]

You essentially have a stock front end save for the dampers. Exactly which ones is not clear since you say "HD" and "Sport". They are different but neither will effect your geometry.

The real question is what springs do you have ? If you lowered the car that would impact camber somewhat and might require Sports (depending on the drop).in short, it's not really clear whether you have a hardware problem, an installation issue or no problem at all

[HerbE30]

If this seems like a long post, sorry. I am not the best at being concise, as I store questions and concerns and try to address them all within one post.

Sorry Jeff. I meant Bilstein HDs with 'Sport springs'. Which are Vogtland and not HR. Which I do enjoy, as the springs are nice and the HDs don't bottom out. I do know that the front has a drop of 1.6. I always feel like I'm ruining a car when I attempt to rebuild one, low confidence and little understanding of suspension geometry. Aside from how it will effect the car.

I know that I shouldn't be running the HDs on lowering springs, I was in the group of people confused when the HD vs 'sport shocks' ordeal was big. (I see why I sound like a Honda enthusiast now.... Sorry guys!)

Either way, I am positive now that I have a preference for coilovers. I didn't want to buy new strut mounts, as that would have bit into the BC fund...




I am having an issue with cornering hard as well... When the car is on it's shoulder (or with heavy weight distribution favoring one area) I feel like the front of the tires are flexing. As if they have low psi or something. But I run them at 45psi all around. Can cheap tires cause this?

Full rundown of the suspension mods.
Sachs OE Strut mounts
Brembo OE (or slicks as they're called)
Hawk HPS
Bilstein HD
Vogtland Springs
Condor Speed Shop Rear subframe w/risers.
Condor Rear trailing arm.

I replaced the tie rods and control arms with cheap parts. So I now have these parts to be installed next weekend(another reason I am not post crazy with this thread)
What will be installed are
Lemforder or Meyle Full tie rods (can't remember, I only ordered 1 and will check)
Condor Offset CAB
Condor Subframe bushing.
CSB/Guibo
Plus Redline.

I don't guess that would help with that sort of steering feel as much as proper tires would be.