PS Delete - First Impressions

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  • balooshinakus
    E30 Addict
    • Feb 2009
    • 511

    #1

    PS Delete - First Impressions

    My steering rack is starting to go, so I've been curious about deleting power steering as 1.) It will make the rack last longer, 2.) Increased road feel, and 3.) I have never been a fan of how light the e30's steering is.. There are a lot of mixed reviews on here about removing PS for street use so I thought I'd write up my own opinions.

    Me:
    First of all, I am not a strong guy by any means, I can bench approx 60lb dumbells and do standing curls with ~35lbs to give you some reference (I'm a computer science guy).

    Car:
    My car is a 325e, stock rack, tires are BFG TractionAT 195 65 r14 (they grip fairly well in my opinion, but I've not ridden in an e30 with something super nice).

    Review:
    • At a stop: Definitely harder to turn the wheel. It's not super hard, and I honestly don't see the big deal. I did some practice parking and it wasn't bad at all. Besides, pretty much the only time you will ever be required to turn your wheel at a complete stop is parking, and if you are like me you don't spend 5 hours straight parking so it shouldn't be an issue.
    • Slow roll (under 10mph): Steering is firm, it is way easier to turn then when at a complete stop, but still requires a decent amount of force. I can turn the wheel with 1 hand, but it's more comfortable to turn with 2 hands (when you do this the wheel just feels firm, not hard). The more your turn the harder it is to turn, if you are going to make a very sharp turn you will want 2 hands on the wheel as it does require some force, but it really isn't a workout - it's just harder to turn the wheel.
    • Medium speed (10mph-30mph): You do not really feel the wheel being any more firm then with powersteering unless turning sharply, but you get a good amount more feed back from the road. The sharper you turn the harder the wheel is to turn. It feels comfortable taking a 90 degree left turn at an intersection with 1 hand on the wheel going ~15-20mph.
    • High speed (anything over 30mph): Don't notice the lack of power steering unless you are cornering, and it is not hard to corner at all, it feels WAY better then with power steering in my opinion.

    My opinions: Definitely worth it so hard at least. Road feel when taking a hard corner is a lot better, and the firmness doesn't really bother me. For medium-high speed all it really feels like is the wheel wants to center itself. Parking isn't the most enjoyable task, but I park like 4 times a day MAX so I don't really care if those 4 times suck for 20 seconds when the rest of my driving experience is improved.

    If you want a more laid back ride comfortable ride, this may not be for you. If you like your ride to be a bit more aggressive, PS delete might be the ticket for you.

    I'm going to go drive around some more, it's addicting haha.
  • wolfgangstbd
    E30 Modder
    • Oct 2008
    • 960

    #2
    eh i like powersteering. there are other ways of tightening up your steering

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    • bmw325csi
      R3V Elite
      • May 2007
      • 4045

      #3
      ^E36 M3 rack and offset cabs might do a good job
      harry/harout

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      • nando
        Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 34827

        #4
        now try it with 225 or 235 r-comps and let us know what you think ;)
        Build thread

        Bimmerlabs

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        • Sammy7
          Noobie
          • Feb 2009
          • 24

          #5
          Meh... I want to add PS to mine. Not really digging the Popeye look.

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          • balooshinakus
            E30 Addict
            • Feb 2009
            • 511

            #6
            I want to get some 225's this summer :-).
            I have m3 cab's, no e36 rack though.

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            • nando
              Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 34827

              #7
              I should take off my belt and let you drive my car.. you won't like it. lol

              even at 30mph, it's way too hard to steer.
              Build thread

              Bimmerlabs

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              • balooshinakus
                E30 Addict
                • Feb 2009
                • 511

                #8
                Yeah I can believe that.. 225's with nice rubber would probably make it a lot harder to turn.

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                • jlevie
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 13530

                  #9
                  Originally posted by nando
                  now try it with 225 or 235 r-comps and let us know what you think ;)
                  I don't have power steering on the race car and find the experience is just as described by balooshinakus. I don't notice much difference between street tires (Kuhmo SPT 205/50-15's) and race tires.
                  The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                  Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                  • z31maniac
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 17566

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nando
                    now try it with 225 or 235 r-comps and let us know what you think ;)
                    I asked the same question on my local board, the guy driving the EM RX7 with 315 slicks said it wasn't a big deal.

                    It will harken me back to my youth when my Z31 power steering died. That and between the pump, lines and ABS delete that's more weight out of the driver front of the car.
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