M3 control arms

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Jchayward90
    Noobie
    • Jan 2010
    • 12

    #1

    M3 control arms

    Hey, about to replace the control arms and was wondering if it would be worth it to pay the extra 400 to get the alluminum m3 arms. I can't find wieght difference any one know off the top of your head? Thx
  • Quailane
    Advanced Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 131

    #2
    If you're on the fence about it I would say no way in hell is it worth it.

    Comment

    • E30_fiend
      R3V OG
      • Apr 2006
      • 7348

      #3
      yeah you will have weight savings but its totally not worth the extra money. Also I have heard that e30 M3 ball joints aren't serviceable so, if true, that's a downside too.

      just my .2 cents




      Taylor
      Need a performance chip for you BMW? Shoot me a PM and I'll get you taken care of!!
      Taylor- Follow me on Instagram @e30_fiend


      Comment

      • blocke
        E30 Fanatic
        • Mar 2009
        • 1305

        #4
        In my opinion, $400 isn't worth the extra 10 -20 pounds you will save. You wont even notice that driving down the road. But if you spent $400 on a new exhaust, or chip and intake, or something like that..you will notice it. I'd buy the stock lemforder non-m arms, and spend the extra $400 on something else your car needs.
        sigpic
        Parts Wanted
        The Never-ending Resto Mod

        Comment

        • MR 325
          Moderator
          • Oct 2003
          • 37825

          #5
          I laugh at the people who drop hundreds extra for aluminum arms. Hell even if I had an M3 that originally came with then I would not put another set on. What a big waste of money.
          BimmerHeads
          Classic BMW Specialists
          Santa Clarita, CA

          www.BimmerHeads.com

          Comment

          • Wh33lhop
            R3V OG
            • Feb 2009
            • 11705

            #6
            Well less unsprung weight is always a good thing, much better than less sprung weight. But as I recall you save about 4lbs per side with the aluminum arms (remember they do not have a sway bar mounting point so you'll need to use M3 swaybar endlinks too). If I was made of money, I'd do it.
            paint sucks

            Comment

            • george graves
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Oct 2003
              • 19986

              #7
              They are weaker then the non-M arms....I don't think people understand that.
              Originally posted by Matt-B
              hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

              Comment

              • drumad
                E30 Mastermind
                • Aug 2009
                • 1700

                #8
                Originally posted by george graves
                They are weaker then the non-M arms....I don't think people understand that.
                BUT THEYRE MADE FOR M3'S!
                2008 335i - n54b30
                1991 318i - m52b28
                1994 fzj80 - LAND CRUSHER

                Comment

                • reelizmpro
                  R3V OG
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 9446

                  #9
                  They actually have stronger ball joints and no you don't have to use the M3 links with them. They have a hole in the arm for the standard E30 links.
                  "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                  85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                  88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                  89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                  91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

                  Comment

                  • FredK
                    R3V OG
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 14741

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                    If I was made of money, I'd do it.
                    Yeah. These are a wear item that many people replace pre-emptively every year on vehicles that see a lot of track time. I'd rather not suck up $850 on a pair of control arms every year.

                    Comment

                    • Quailane
                      Advanced Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 131

                      #11
                      Originally posted by reelizmpro
                      They actually have stronger ball joints and no you don't have to use the M3 links with them. They have a hole in the arm for the standard E30 links.
                      I've heard that's a real bad idea because unlike the steel ones it will eventually tear out. The arms also are supposed to be replaced every so often because over time stressed aluminum can weaken and give way, which steel doesn't do.

                      Comment

                      • reelizmpro
                        R3V OG
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 9446

                        #12
                        I don't know what you heard but in 20 years I never heard of an E30 control arm (the arm itself) breaking. Never heard of anyone ripping a 325 mount out of an Al arm either. It's typically the ball joints that are the weakest link and the Aluminum arms have stronger joints. Aluminum is being used on a lot of suspension parts these days without any issues.

                        Here's a link with some scientific data:

                        "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                        85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                        88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                        89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                        91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

                        Comment

                        • erik325i
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 3567

                          #13
                          Originally posted by reelizmpro
                          I don't know what you heard but in 20 years I never heard of an E30 control arm (the arm itself) breaking. Never heard of anyone ripping a 325 mount out of an Al arm either. It's typically the ball joints that are the weakest link and the Aluminum arms have stronger joints. Aluminum is being used on a lot of suspension parts these days without any issues.
                          I'm with Barry on this one. Most all new BMWs come with aluminum control arms. Saying that they will fail just because they are aluminum is foolish. Yes, it sucks that the ball joint is not serviceable, but the ball joint itself is larger, so it will last longer than a non-M ball joint.

                          Originally posted by Jchayward90
                          Hey, about to replace the control arms and was wondering if it would be worth it to pay the extra 400 to get the alluminum m3 arms.
                          Nobody can tell you if the arms are worth it without knowing the purpose. If you are building a competitive race car, than yes, I'd say it is worth it to save that amount of unsprung weight. I'd guess that if you were building race car, then you would not be asking this question here though.

                          On a street car, save your money.

                          Erik

                          Comment

                          • Swede-E30
                            Member
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 91

                            #14
                            I bought my aluminum arms six years ago for $165 a piece. Yes they do have the hole from factory for the sway bar and they have around 60k on them with no issues. That is street use and autocross every now and then.

                            Comment

                            • reelizmpro
                              R3V OG
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 9446

                              #15
                              The only issue I can possibly see with Aluminum arms is something seriously impacting it. The steel arm will bend (i have seen this) and the Al arm will crack but keep in mind they are solid without all the holes that the steel version has.

                              Swede is right, the Al arms didn't use to be THAT expensive. They were about $150-175 a piece back in the day and a very common upgrade. Now that prices have skyrocketed on these, I would go with the E36 M3 control arms. They have the stronger joints but in a steel arm.
                              "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                              85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                              88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                              89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                              91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

                              Comment

                              Working...