E36/Z3 steering rack swap people: I need your feedback

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  • Surtr
    Advanced Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 177

    #16
    1) 3.2 LTL from a '95 Z3M.

    2) Hard to say, as I was coming from a leaking rack that took a lot of effort with power steering.

    3) Worse

    4) I don't know.

    5) Absolutely worth it. Probably the best mod I've done to my car.
    '07 Female Miniature Dachshund, Long Hair Edition, Red.
    Mods so far: Reproduction delete kit, biweekly nail shortening.
    (Pics hopefully coming soon)

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    • xwill112x
      Θέλησα έναν τίτλο συνήθειας, απορροφώ για να είμ&#
      • Jan 2009
      • 4237

      #17
      so whats the best rack the z3 or e36 one/?
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      • Wh33lhop
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2009
        • 11705

        #18
        Originally posted by xwill112x
        so whats the best rack the z3 or e36 one/?
        Depends on what you want. Z3 will offer a more darty feel, '95 M3 will offer more lock.
        paint sucks

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        • xwill112x
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          • Jan 2009
          • 4237

          #19
          and the 95 m3 is basicly any other e36 rack?
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          • Surtr
            Advanced Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 177

            #20
            Originally posted by xwill112x
            and the 95 m3 is basicly any other e36 rack?
            No. '95 M3 is like 3.0 LTL. It's slightly less than E36, but more than a Z3 1.9. AFAIK, any E36 Z3M is just the same as any E36.
            '07 Female Miniature Dachshund, Long Hair Edition, Red.
            Mods so far: Reproduction delete kit, biweekly nail shortening.
            (Pics hopefully coming soon)

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            • Wh33lhop
              R3V OG
              • Feb 2009
              • 11705

              #21
              Originally posted by Surtr
              No. '95 M3 is like 3.0 LTL. It's slightly less than E36, but more than a Z3 1.9. AFAIK, any E36 Z3M is just the same as any E36.
              Originally posted by Wh33lhop
              No, the '96+ M3 is the same as the plain-jane E36 rack at 3.2 turns (I've got a regular E36 rack in my car). Incidentally, the Z3-M rack is the same as the regular E36 rack, so if you stumble across one, ironically, it's not really special.

              The 3.5 turn LTL rack you are thinking of is off the E30M.
              '96+ M3 rack = non-M E36 rack = Z3M rack, the '95 M3 rack (and the non-M Z3 rack) are the more sought after ones.
              paint sucks

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              • D-rock
                Mod Crazy
                • Mar 2009
                • 714

                #22
                Originally posted by bimmerpirate
                1. used the standard 3.1 L2L rack out of any e36 you find in a junkyard.
                2. no real difference as long as you keep powersteering
                3. no real difference
                4. you should have done this already.
                5. every e30 needs this rack.
                Why so if there is no real difference?

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                • ian e30 318is
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1804

                  #23
                  get the z3 rack...you won't regret it.

                  1991 LS1 Swapped 318is
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                  • dnova89
                    E30 Modder
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 851

                    #24
                    To swap a '95 m3 rack into an e30, do I just use my stock power steering hose/reservoir I currently have, or do I need to buy the '95 m3 power steering hose/reservoir?

                    Originally posted by Turd
                    Having driven a stock racked E30, compared to my car the difference is drastic.

                    1. 1996 M3 rack with AKG's link modification kit / rack spacers, and

                    modified power steering lines to accomodate the rack.


                    4. You need to modify your power steering lines.
                    How do I need to modify my power steering lines? Is it parts I need to buy or just work I need to do? I'm having someone else do the swap for me, but I need to supply all the parts for him, so if it's just work that needs to be done then I'm good, however if there's any parts can you please inform me of what you had to buy?
                    -Darius (aka DiscoDoughnuts on other forums)

                    dude man bro...

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                    • 87e30
                      R3V Elite
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 5676

                      #25
                      Haven't had enough time to test out my 98 e36 rack but it's definitely mucho better than stock. It came with a parts car, so I can't complain, but if I was dropping the money I'd have to say go z3 1.9. But I'm happy with this.
                      Originally posted by z31maniac
                      I just hate everyone.

                      No need for discretion.

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                      • Wh33lhop
                        R3V OG
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 11705

                        #26
                        The regular E36 rack takes the steering from abysmally slow to merely acceptable. If I were to do it again, I'd hold out for a Z3 rack to make it quick.
                        paint sucks

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                        • Burnera
                          Advanced Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 137

                          #27
                          To be clear then, the Non-M Z3 rack is 1.9 turns.
                          right?

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                          • ian e30 318is
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 1804

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Burnera
                            To be clear then, the Non-M Z3 rack is 1.9 turns.
                            right?
                            Here read this....http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=66247. might clear some stuff up

                            1991 LS1 Swapped 318is
                            Instagram:
                            https://instagram.com/saltybeast/
                            LS Build Thread:
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                            • Dominic49
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 1373

                              #29
                              Originally posted by bimmerpirate
                              the z3 rack is the shorter ratio but you lose on how much you can actually turn the wheels. it's basically a shortened e36 rack. it's great if you're going to oversized wheels and dont want to get the steering rack stops but worthless otherwise because you are actually losing degrees of how much your wheels are turning.

                              I've really noticed no difference in steering response. it responds just as well as the old rack, just takes less turns to turn the wheels so it's quicker in that sense.
                              thats bullshit i run the z3 rack on the drift car and it hits the frame rails with stock tie rods. it really grinds the wheels in now that i have spacers...

                              Originally posted by xwill112x
                              so whats the best rack the z3 or e36 one/?

                              z3 if you can find it...

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                              • diegom6
                                R3V Elite
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 4447

                                #30
                                Bumping a old thread rather than bumping even a older thread linked in this one (RobertK build thread).

                                IDoes anybody knows what's the OEM PN for the Z3 1.9L rack?

                                Also, from the www.mavalgear.com site list, which is sopoused to be the Z3 1.9L rack?

                                Z3 1996-1997 (All Models)
                                9302M
                                1998-2002 (All exc 3.2L Eng)
                                9302M
                                1998-2002 (All w/3.2L Eng)
                                9186M


                                Thanks!!
                                Euro M3'87 NogaroSilver/Euro E34 M5 '93/Porsche 993 TT 97' Euro/Porsche 993 Carrera 95' Euro/Skyline R33 GT-R

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