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  • dkbmxer002
    E30 Fanatic
    • Nov 2007
    • 1389

    #1

    semi wandering steering...

    ok.. so i recently replaced both my control arms. since i have done this my steering wheel is slightly turned to the left as if i am barely turning while i am going straight and i have a very twitchy steering... it's as though it wants to kind of veer left or right if i don't hold it and pay attention. i have never had this issue in the past...

    here are a list of things..

    - the power steering fluid was low enough to not read on the cap. i filled it to the top fill line.
    - with the car jacked up in the front when i turned the wheel semi quickly lock to lock it had some air bubbles coming up through the reservoir.
    - there is no wiggling of the wheels other than what is slightly felt all the way through to the steering wheel.
    - the nut on the steering column under the dash is tight.
    - tires have inside wear but i always have this and never had the wandering before.


    i just listed these to help diagnose this issue... i am kind of stumped.. i assumed the tie rod/s but with no play in the wheel i am not sure. any advice would be appreciated, thanks!
  • StereoInstaller1
    GAS
    • Jul 2004
    • 22679

    #2
    Go get an alignment first.

    If they try and sell you more than a simple "toe" adjustment, ask why, as there is no other adjustment to be made...if they try to sell you a "4 wheel" or "thrust" alignment, walk out the door.

    Closing SOON!
    "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

    Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

    Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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    • dkbmxer002
      E30 Fanatic
      • Nov 2007
      • 1389

      #3
      alright thanks.

      even though i just replaced the control arms it might be an alignment? i want to make sure i don't have to spend the money twice.

      what can i do to help with the inside wear? it is pretty bad and i assume it is from the lowering springs (stock blown shocks). i know factory these cars and most bmw's have this issue but mine is really bad lol.

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      • StereoInstaller1
        GAS
        • Jul 2004
        • 22679

        #4
        Inside tire wear is caused by shit alignment WAY more than camber

        Closing SOON!
        "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

        Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

        Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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        • u3b3rg33k
          R3VLimited
          • Jan 2010
          • 2452

          #5
          control arms have much less to do with alignment than tie rods and ball joints.

          Ich gehöre nicht zur Baader-Meinhof Gruppe

          Originally posted by Top Gear
          Just imagine waking up and remembering you're Mexican.

          Every time you buy a car with DSC/ESC, Jesus kills a baby seal. With a kitten.


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          • silversleeper
            R3VLimited
            • Mar 2005
            • 2032

            #6
            Did you replace the CABs with offsets?
            Claus Luthe is my hero.

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            • dkbmxer002
              E30 Fanatic
              • Nov 2007
              • 1389

              #7
              nope, kept the standard cab's.

              also i figured that tie rods and ball joints... hence why i am confused...

              and stereo, thanks. i will look into a cheap alignment, i just don't want to spend alot being that i know it needs new shocks and tires soon.

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              • jlevie
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2006
                • 13530

                #8
                If the car is lowered the wheels have gained negative camber, which will accelerate inside tire wear. The real fix for a street car is adjustable camber plates on the fronts and eccentric RTAB's or weld-in camber/toe adjusters in the rear. However, if you don't want to go that far, setting front toe to zero will reduce the rate of tire wear. Though that will reduce directional stability meaning that you will have to actively drive the car 100% of the time.

                As an FYI, replacement of a control arm or bushing requires alignment of the fronts.
                Last edited by jlevie; 12-01-2010, 07:30 AM.
                The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                • dkbmxer002
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1389

                  #9
                  so the only alignment adjustment possible/needed is the "toe" period?

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                  • jlevie
                    R3V OG
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 13530

                    #10
                    Without adding camber plates or rear adjusters, toe is the only thing that can be adjusted.
                    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                    • nando
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 34827

                      #11
                      toe out kills the insides of tires. get an alignment!
                      Build thread

                      Bimmerlabs

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                      • dkbmxer002
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1389

                        #12
                        ok thanks guys!

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                        • dkbmxer002
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1389

                          #13
                          bumpin this thread.. it seems hard to find a shop that will just do a toe alignment around here.. also will toe out cause the steering to be very "twitchy" and want to swerve left or right without being very alert with the steering. at the same time it is wearing the tires extremely fast..

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