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  • 5ickride
    R3VLimited
    • Jun 2009
    • 2922

    #1

    Coilover question

    Im buying bits and pieces for my suspension and got curious about something. Will my bilstein sport shocks be usable on a coilover kit? Like say, AST, GC, TCK, etc... Or are Koni's best for coilovers?
    Thanks
  • Teaguer
    R3V OG
    • Sep 2004
    • 6167

    #2
    If you are just using the coil-over sleeves to get adjustability then any shock/strut will work.

    Biggest difference is Bilsteins are high pressure while Koni's are low pressure and are adjustable.

    On another note Koni's are more known for blowing and needing rebuilds whereas Bilsteins rarely need to be rebuilt.

    E30 M3 / E30 325is / E34 525iT / E34 535i

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    • 5ickride
      R3VLimited
      • Jun 2009
      • 2922

      #3
      So because koni's are adjustable, they'd have more of a drop on say a GC coilover kit over bilstein then, right?

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      • Teaguer
        R3V OG
        • Sep 2004
        • 6167

        #4
        Originally posted by 5ickride
        So because koni's are adjustable, they'd have more of a drop on say a GC coilover kit over bilstein then, right?
        Totally WRONG.

        Adjustable struts or any struts for that matter have have no effect on ride height.
        Adjustable struts mean they have the ability to adjust the rebound and/or compression dampening.

        Also don't confuse your piecing together coil-over sleeves on your stock housings and struts with any sort of name brand procudt like AST, TCK or GC.

        E30 M3 / E30 325is / E34 525iT / E34 535i

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        • 5ickride
          R3VLimited
          • Jun 2009
          • 2922

          #5
          Originally posted by Teaguer
          Also don't confuse your piecing together coil-over sleeves on your stock housings and struts with any sort of name brand procudt like AST, TCK or GC.
          Not sure what you mean here.

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          • ck_taft325is
            R3V OG
            • Sep 2007
            • 6880

            #6
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            Last edited by ck_taft325is; 01-02-2011, 07:43 PM.
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            • 5ickride
              R3VLimited
              • Jun 2009
              • 2922

              #7
              Ahh, ok! I might just do that anyway...thx

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              • !kid
                E30 Fanatic
                • Mar 2009
                • 1362

                #8
                he is trying to say that this coil over kit


                is not the same as this sleeved coil over kit


                :borg:

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                • ck_taft325is
                  R3V OG
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 6880

                  #9
                  Honestly, the conversion kit is really well priced from GC.

                  I went JOM solely because I was on a super strict budget and have no complaints as I'm never going to track the car or slam it. Solely the cheapest I could get some decent adjustability to dial in a good DD ride height.

                  It's all about what you're going for.
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                  • Dj Buttchug
                    R3V OG
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 7633

                    #10
                    ^ yes two very different things.

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                    • Teaguer
                      R3V OG
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 6167

                      #11
                      No thats not exactly what I meant.
                      I'm just saying you can get dirt cheap sleeves and collars anywhere and make an adjustable coil-over set-up that works.

                      Its just that you referenced those brands in the orginal post and I'm just saying don't confuse a at most $300 coil-over conversion set-up to those brands which sell for $2k. Worlds apart as most include different housings and all of them include specially valved struts to work in harmony.

                      E30 M3 / E30 325is / E34 525iT / E34 535i

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                      • ck_taft325is
                        R3V OG
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 6880

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Teaguer
                        No thats not exactly what I meant.
                        I'm just saying you can get dirt cheap sleeves and collars anywhere and make an adjustable coil-over set-up that works.

                        Its just that you referenced those brands in the orginal post and I'm just saying don't confuse a at most $300 coil-over conversion set-up to those brands which sell for $2k. Worlds apart as most include different housings and all of them include specially valved struts to work in harmony.

                        Oh, totally got'cha.

                        Mildly bitchy comment retracted and my apologies.
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                        • Teaguer
                          R3V OG
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 6167

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ck_taft325is
                          Oh, totally got'cha.
                          Mildly bitchy comment retracted and my apologies.
                          No need to retract your comment. I'm not some kind of crybaby bitch. :D

                          Now lets get this guy dropped already! :hitler:

                          E30 M3 / E30 325is / E34 525iT / E34 535i

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                          • 5ickride
                            R3VLimited
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 2922

                            #14
                            Thanks guys. I like to do things right the first time around so i wont skim if i dont think im getting some good shit. Ill be posting alot more about this once uncle sam gives me my money!

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                            • Hellabad
                              E30 Modder
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 807

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Teaguer

                              On another note Koni's are more known for blowing and needing rebuilds whereas Bilsteins rarely need to be rebuilt.
                              Not quite correct.

                              Konis are never rebuilt. They have a lifetime warranty*, and if they are defective ("blown") then they are replaced with brand new ones at no charge, not rebuilt.

                              Bilsteins also have a lifetime warranty*, and are either rebuilt or replaced depending on the situation.

                              After tracking the failures of both brands over the years, they are statistically identical, and very low.

                              I would consider this a sign of confidence by the manufacturers of Koni and Bilstein to offer a lifetime warranty, rather than, for example, only a one year warranty.

                              * original owner

                              disclaimer: Both Koni or Bilstein can be rebuilt if they were bought used (therefore the original owners warranty is expired), or if the owner desires different valving, at the owners expense.

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