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  • gmyers395
    Wrencher
    • Apr 2010
    • 226

    #16
    If there is still fluid in the rack when its either sealed up or you just cut the belt the steering will be hard. Mine was easy as soon as I cut the belt because I had a gawd awful leak. That being the reason for me deleting it in the first place. So if you get rid of power steering make sure all of the fluid is out of the rack, and its easy as something that's really easy.
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    • XvillainousX
      Advanced Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 176

      #17
      On my race car I just disconnected everything and ran it like that for several years. My friend cut and crimped the line.

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      • seatown88
        Grease Monkey
        • Oct 2010
        • 331

        #18
        Originally posted by gmyers395
        If there is still fluid in the rack when its either sealed up or you just cut the belt the steering will be hard. Mine was easy as soon as I cut the belt because I had a gawd awful leak. That being the reason for me deleting it in the first place. So if you get rid of power steering make sure all of the fluid is out of the rack, and its easy as something that's really easy.

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        With the hoses removed, turn the steering wheel lock to lock and a majority of the fluid will come out and that's all that is needed, plug it, block it, or whatever you want to do after that. I still think short bolts are the cleanest, simplest, and cheapest way to remove the powersteering system

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        • Philo
          Ich esse kleine Kinder
          • Oct 2008
          • 3334

          #19
          I hope everyone who is plugging the holes, or using "short bolts" realizes that air (and/or Fluid) needs to travel out of the system through the holes being plugged. Otherwise steering effort will increase and the inner seals will blow.
          -tim
          Originally posted by Jordan
          I like the stance
          -Coining hip terms since 10/9/03

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          • Holland
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2008
            • 7176

            #20
            Originally posted by Dominic49
            I've ran my rack empty for a couple years now with no bolts in the holes. It's great (2.7 z3)
            How is this? I really want to run the same setup. So from my understanding, one removes the PS lines, empties the fluid from the where the lines once were (not the actual rack part) and just runs the delete block. I want the 2.7 rack but I hear it's a nightmare without PS.
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            You'd chugg this butt. I know you would. Ain't gotta' lie to kick it brostantinople.

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            • Earendil
              E30 Mastermind
              • Jun 2009
              • 1662

              #21
              Originally posted by Philo
              I hope everyone who is plugging the holes, or using "short bolts" realizes that air (and/or Fluid) needs to travel out of the system through the holes being plugged. Otherwise steering effort will increase and the inner seals will blow.
              If there were still fluid in there, perhaps? But it should be able to accept a little compressed air. The internet is full of people that have straight up plugged the holes and had no problem for years.

              I'll let you know soon though. After having not had power steering for years, I finally deleted the equipment for it. I plugged the holes using the original hose bolts, but with washers and JB Weld to seal it and make a tight fit.
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              • mr.vang
                R3V Elite
                • May 2010
                • 4371

                #22
                i wouldn't loop mine. either get the plate or screw those two bolts back in with some washer. that's what i did.
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                • Philo
                  Ich esse kleine Kinder
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 3334

                  #23
                  All i'm saying that compressing the air produces much more effort to turn, rather than allowing the fluid to flow freely. Whether the pressure compounded is enough to damage the internals is doubtful, due to the fact that the original PS system puts quite a load to begin with.
                  -tim
                  Originally posted by Jordan
                  I like the stance
                  -Coining hip terms since 10/9/03

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                  • seatown88
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 331

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Philo
                    I hope everyone who is plugging the holes, or using "short bolts" realizes that air (and/or Fluid) needs to travel out of the system through the holes being plugged. Otherwise steering effort will increase and the inner seals will blow.
                    If there is any increased effort it is hardly noticible. There are numerous pro3 cars running with plugs in the holes. However, draining the fluid is necessary otherwise the rack will hydraulically lock.

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                    • Wanganstyle
                      R3VLimited
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2828

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Holland
                      How is this? I really want to run the same setup. So from my understanding, one removes the PS lines, empties the fluid from the where the lines once were (not the actual rack part) and just runs the delete block. I want the 2.7 rack but I hear it's a nightmare without PS.

                      I ran the 2.7 rack powerless with S54 in my old E36. car was ~ 3,000 lbs, and would have been fine to drive but the tires were too big (245/40/18) wheels were NOT too heavy, mainly tire weight; also traction patch was too big to overcome easily at low parking lot speeds. My Arms got buff, was using OEM e36M steering wheel.

                      if it was on my E30, it would be great with no power and 2.7locking rack.
                      OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

                      Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



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                      • Holland
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 7176

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Wanganstyle
                        I ran the 2.7 rack powerless with S54 in my old E36. car was ~ 3,000 lbs, and would have been fine to drive but the tires were too big (245/40/18) wheels were NOT too heavy, mainly tire weight; also traction patch was too big to overcome easily at low parking lot speeds. My Arms got buff, was using OEM e36M steering wheel.

                        if it was on my E30, it would be great with no power and 2.7locking rack.
                        Excellent, that's what I wanted to hear.
                        1985 M10b18. 70maybewhpoffury. Over engineered S50b30 murica BBQ swap in progress.

                        Originally posted by DEV0 E30
                        You'd chugg this butt. I know you would. Ain't gotta' lie to kick it brostantinople.

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                        • Heysüß
                          E30 Modder
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 911

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Holland
                          Excellent, that's what I wanted to hear.
                          +1!!!!

                          and just to be on the safe side I'm thinking about getting this looping power steering delete block thing. I bought the z3 rack "new" (remanufactured) and it cost me a pretty penny, the last thing I want to do is fuck it up. Better safe than sorry right?
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                          +M30 Swap
                          +Z3 Steering Rack

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                          • DatUtahGuy
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3146

                            #28
                            sOOOOOO, just to revive a forgotten thread ;)

                            my steering rack leaks, more like squirts, and I've wanted to do the PS delete for a while now.
                            what you lot are saying, is that I don't have to replace the rack, just take out everything associated with power steering, plug the holes in the rack and be on my merry way? there is no fluid left in my rack as of now.
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                            • blefevre
                              R3V Elite
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4287

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Schwarz3
                              sOOOOOO, just to revive a forgotten thread ;)

                              my steering rack leaks, more like squirts, and I've wanted to do the PS delete for a while now.
                              what you lot are saying, is that I don't have to replace the rack, just take out everything associated with power steering, plug the holes in the rack and be on my merry way? there is no fluid left in my rack as of now.
                              Sure, or just cut the belt so you don't burn up the pump, or loop it, or bolt it, etc. Really it doesn't matter as long as the belt is out of there. It's fine if it runs "dry".

                              - E30, DSM, Golf R, Mazda 3 Skyactiv

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                              • Philo
                                Ich esse kleine Kinder
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 3334

                                #30
                                Yep. Remove the belt at the least, and more components if you want to clean up the bay and get rid of extra weight. Drain all of the fluid in the rack, and plug it, bolt it, loop it, or just leave it open.
                                -tim
                                Originally posted by Jordan
                                I like the stance
                                -Coining hip terms since 10/9/03

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