Turner Motorsport suspension question.

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  • LokeyVW
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 81

    #1

    Turner Motorsport suspension question.

    Has anyone tried the E30 Turner Mortorsport J-Stock Suspension System?

    I am trying to put together a very competitive suspension that is still somewhat streetable. I have searched around a bit here on the forums and have not come across this setup yet. I now its pricy at 2k but sway bars are around 440 springs 300+ camber plates 250+ stuts 400+ and the Turner setup comes with upper strut bearings rear shock mounts and a reinforcement kit.

    Is it worth it to just pick up this kit and call it a day or is it just over priced since its all bundled together and has the Turner Motorsport name on it?

    Thanks for any help, I would rather get the opinion of people who have been around the E30's for a while before I drop some serious cash on suspension.

    If it matters I already ordered tires that are 225/45R15 Ventus RS-3's and will be picking up new lightweight wheels once I decide between RPF1, Kosei K1 and the TR C1's

    Thanks!
  • KenC
    King of Kegstands
    • Oct 2003
    • 14396

    #2
    The J-Stock springs are 680/1026, and you need to match them with the Turner custom valved Bilsteins. I've never heard of anybody trying to run these on the street. That's STIFF!
    Originally posted by Gruelius
    and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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    • LokeyVW
      Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 81

      #3
      Yeah the kit on the Turner site comes with the revalved shocks. I didn't realize the springs were so stiff but if the shocks are valved to match it shouldnt be too terrible haha

      Just wondering if anyone has actually tired this sillyness on a car that sees street duty.

      I might just end up buying things individually and going with the HR springs and bilstein struts.

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      • KenC
        King of Kegstands
        • Oct 2003
        • 14396

        #4
        Even the H&R Race are nowhere near as stiff as the Turner J-Stocks.

        I'd recommend going with a Ground Control coil-over set up. You can customize the spring rates, and have adjustable height as well. They sell custom valved Koni's also.
        Originally posted by Gruelius
        and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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        • LokeyVW
          Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 81

          #5
          Originally posted by KenC
          Even the H&R Race are nowhere near as stiff as the Turner J-Stocks.

          I'd recommend going with a Ground Control coil-over set up. You can customize the spring rates, and have adjustable height as well. They sell custom valved Koni's also.
          I have looked into GC and I am not opposed to that route, just thinking it would be nice to get something like the turner kit that is designed to all work together to provide the best handling possible.

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          • Asbradley21
            E30 Mastermind
            • Jun 2008
            • 1938

            #6
            I bought the springs and had my bilstein sports revalved to match. I love the handling. It is extremely stiff for the street though.

            S54B32 swap in progress. Status: Getting There

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            • KenC
              King of Kegstands
              • Oct 2003
              • 14396

              #7
              Originally posted by LokeyVW
              I have looked into GC and I am not opposed to that route, just thinking it would be nice to get something like the turner kit that is designed to all work together to provide the best handling possible.
              Sounds like you have your mind made up then.

              /thread
              Originally posted by Gruelius
              and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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              • Brandon12V
                E30 Fanatic
                • Feb 2008
                • 1318

                #8
                You wanna be competitive? AST suspension. THEN you call it a day, lol. on a real note, I start slow and upgrade as you go. I don't know what you have done to your car yet, but if you are actually being serious about the "competitive" shit, then you have preventative maintenance to do. Replace the bushings. ALL OF THEM. Then reinforce your subframes. Reinforce your trailing arms. Check your wheel bearings. And what are your goals? Am I wasting my typing breath on an "AutoX/DD" or is this thing actually being tracked?

                Originally posted by Ryan...
                It now emits a beautiful blue-ish yellow/green smoke from the exhaust?? No idea what would cause that color, but I assume its good.

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                • UDelaware30
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 336

                  #9
                  go with the turner kit. replace bushings. let everyone know how it works for you.
                  nothing wrong with being different

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                  • LokeyVW
                    Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 81

                    #10
                    Originally posted by KenC
                    Sounds like you have your mind made up then.

                    /thread
                    I am seriously leaning towards the Turner setup that is true but I wanted to see if anyone has run them on the street.

                    Originally posted by UDelaware30
                    go with the turner kit. replace bushings. let everyone know how it works for you.
                    nothing wrong with being different
                    I will be calling them Monday to verify the suspension will work on the 84-85 318I since it has different strut housings and to request it without the Turner Motorsport camber plates since I want the extra travel GC plates provides.

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                    • Sagaris
                      R3VLimited
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2243

                      #11
                      Just keep in mind that suspension that stiff on many roads, and even some racetracks, can result in the car skipping across uneven pavement and losing contact with the ground/ decreasing your handling performance. You sound like you know what you are doing but I just have to put that out there just in case

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                      • LokeyVW
                        Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 81

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sagaris
                        Just keep in mind that suspension that stiff on many roads, and even some racetracks, can result in the car skipping across uneven pavement and losing contact with the ground/ decreasing your handling performance. You sound like you know what you are doing but I just have to put that out there just in case

                        My past encounters with upgraded suspension is from my MK2 VW's and on those I liked the Neuspeed Race Springs with Tokico 5 way adjustable dampers or the Koni fuly adjustable coils. What I am finding out about E30's is you typically run either stiff springs and no sways or soft springs and big sways. This is quite a bit different than VW's where a stiff spring went well with a large rear anti roll bar.


                        I actually just drove the car home and it feels like a boat, I am guessing all the bushings are shot and the stuts are blown so the car will be getting a complete (every bushing possible) overhaul along with upgraded stuts springs sways and reinforcement kit. But before thats going to get to happen I need to get the basics out of the way, and yes I have a Bentley manual in the mail right now...

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                        • jlevie
                          R3V OG
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 13530

                          #13
                          I've driven a race car with the J Stock springs and I can only imagine how bad that would be on the street. J Stock springs are amost exactly twice the spring rates of H&R race. My Spec E30 (with H&R race springs) is almost punishing on the street.
                          The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                          Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                          • LokeyVW
                            Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 81

                            #14
                            Originally posted by KenC
                            Sounds like you have your mind made up then.

                            /thread
                            Originally posted by UDelaware30
                            go with the turner kit. replace bushings. let everyone know how it works for you.
                            nothing wrong with being different
                            Originally posted by jlevie
                            I've driven a race car with the J Stock springs and I can only imagine how bad that would be on the street. J Stock springs are amost exactly twice the spring rates of H&R race. My Spec E30 (with H&R race springs) is almost punishing on the street.
                            Thanks for the heads up! That is the kind of first hand info I was hoping to get from this thread. I will be ordering new brakes bushings and maint stuff on Monday!

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                            • LokeyVW
                              Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 81

                              #15
                              Well order placed, based on my research and the opinons of both jlevie and someone local to me who have run the J Sport setup I decided it is probably too much for my needs. I went with the HR Race springs with Bilstien Sprot Shock in the NASA Pro Spec E30 kit that comes with all the reinforcment bits along with sway bars and new rear upper bushings. Also picked up some rear trailing arm bushings and KMAC front camber plates, and wheel studs to make life easier. But most importantly I have a Bentley Manual on the way

                              I also ordered a 5 piece poly bushing kit for the front control arms and a slew of basic maint parts. Tires are on order (225/45R15 Ventus RS-3's) and wheels (TR C1's in 15x8) will be soon!

                              I dont think I am missing anything for a full suspension overhaul? I have heard good things about the rear strut brace but that will come in a few weeks/months at the same time as I have a cage welded in.

                              My hope is to have an aggressive street driven car that is just as comfortable on the track and twisty back roads.

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