Camaro Shocks

[bnyhan]

I have read through this entire thread, considering the front mr2 shocks and cutting the housings down 2 inches and running them with my ground control coilover conversion kit. Has anyone used this setup with camber plates...? Would you run MR2 camber plates? or...

[Mr. Tasty]

this is leading to the same idea that indeed pistons have 0 velocity at TDC and BDC and stop. I am just saying that the height is not initially governed by shock compression.

[ToPLeSS(e30)FeinD]

If any of you have owned a Ford Explorer, u can second this. The difference in height on a car between brand new shocks and blown out shocks is small but noticeable. Both of you are right, on cars too light to provide sufficient weight to prove this theory, the difference is finite. But it does exist.

Side Note: Wasn't this thread regarding Camaro shocks and similar applications? Let's try to keep it on topic. And PLEASE read before asking questions. The redundancy in this thread is getting out of hand.

[IronFreak]

That might be the case, but if in-fact your shock is supporting weight like that, expect it to go out faster....your springs aren't doing there job if they sag that much.

[SmokeE30]

you are so wrong... spring height is the only thing that will change the level of the car. Shocks stop the movement of springs only.

Just saying what happens on my car, stiff new shock make it ride at a higher height then blown out old shocks. If you find that impossible to believe the so be it but I don't rub any more so the diffrence is clear to me

[Mr. Tasty]

i understand that is not their intended purpose but putting stiff new shocks in place of beat ones will raise the car up, thats why i no longer rub up front because i replaced cheap Stagg front shocks with new billy sports and it raised the front about an inch.

but with ride height aside these excel g's still are much easier to compress then my old tokico blue's so i dont see them helping me aside from the fact that they are shorter and thus wont let my suspension drop so much when it uncompressed.

you are so wrong... spring height is the only thing that will change the level of the car. Shocks stop the movement of springs only.

[SmokeE30]

Shocks aren't designed to have effect on ride height, they are designed to control your springs. If you want to adjust your height, it's going to be in the spring, not the shock.

i understand that is not their intended purpose but putting stiff new shocks in place of beat ones will raise the car up, thats why i no longer rub up front because i replaced cheap Stagg front shocks with new billy sports and it raised the front about an inch.

but with ride height aside these excel g's still are much easier to compress then my old tokico blue's so i dont see them helping me aside from the fact that they are shorter and thus wont let my suspension drop so much when it uncompressed.

[IronFreak]

Shocks aren't designed to have effect on ride height, they are designed to control your springs. If you want to adjust your height, it's going to be in the spring, not the shock.

[SmokeE30]

well i just got my Camaro KYB excel-g rear shocks and pulled my current tokico blues off the rear of my 88 325.

side by side comparison shows the KYB's to be 1.5" shorter then the Tokico's. and pressing on the two of them to my surprise the tokico's are much stiffer then the new KYB's. this has me concerned because i was hoping to pick the back end of my car up a little bit with stiffer shocks. i guess i should have got kyb gas-a-just or agx's but i thought the increased rear weight of the 4th gen camaro would lend to a stiffer shock period. at this point im unsure if i will use these. im sure they would be a nice upgrade from some beat stock shocks, but the fact that they are much easier to compress than the well used tokico blues makes me think they may have been a waste for my car.

any thoughts?

[Thizzelle]

any other front shocks that will work with out a spacer mod? don't need to be adjustable, just looking for something cheaper than a OEM replacement

[graphikg]

I have GE 450/650 springs with camaro gas a just rears and revalved billy fronts especially designed for the setup. I havent had a track day yet but definitely want to try it. but...

This is what I have now and LOVVVE it!

[TG Goose]

I've been running AGX's (MR2 fronts / Camaro rears) for a while now, and have quite a few track days on them. I love the combo. I can dial it down for daily use, and really stiffen it up for track days. I am paired with H&R race springs, ST sways.

I'd really like to hear more feedback from other users and what combos you are running

[Andy.B]

Ordered mr2 rear kyb agx shocks today. I will be installing M3 drop links at the same time, so this should really stiffen things up. Now I have to wait for nice enough weather to be motivated to do this.

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[graphikg]

If you are planning to go with the MR2 struts in the front, I say just go with the camaros in the rear. I think they are stiff enough and will match. At the end of the day though, everything is subjective and I dont think I am even a good candidate to measure how "stiff" suspension is by just riding in the car. I either like the ride or I dont. I however would like to say that I like the Camaro rears - feels solid. And I have everything Poly in the back with no Sway. As far as the front, I will tell you what my revalved billies feel like once my oil pan is back in.

[Andy.B]

Im running ST M3 Springs in my 325e, and am considering going the mr2 KYB AGX route for the front. I ordered the bearings already, and know I will have to run spacers since I don't plan to cut the strut tube.

I don't know what strut insert to run in the front. Will the rear mr2 shocks (even at the lowest setting) be too stiff a shock for the ST springs?
Would the front mr2 shocks be a better choice instead?
Am I better off just putting down the money for bilsteins and calling it a day?