KYB Front Strut Installation Woes

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  • StereoInstaller1
    GAS
    • Jul 2004
    • 22679

    #16
    Originally posted by GCMARK
    My catalog shows 86-3/92 318is...part#364021
    I have this part number on 2 of my E30s. I have not tried using stock springs on them, but they fit just fine with the Bavauto and B+G springs.

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    • LJ851
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2010
      • 7918

      #17
      I hope this helps you, the strut is fully extended in this pic.

      Lorin


      Originally posted by slammin.e28
      The M30 is God's engine.

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      • DRTSRFR
        E30 Mastermind
        • May 2008
        • 1836

        #18
        If the OP has the correct part number there's no reason they shouldn't fit regardless of the springs. GR2s, or EXEL-G as they are now called, are stock replacement dampers.

        EDIT:

        OK, something's not right. I just went and measured a stock front and the shaft is only exposed 8" with the spring and hat on it.

        Waitaminute...is that a Canadian tape measure??
        Last edited by DRTSRFR; 01-31-2012, 05:21 PM.
        Suspension tips here...
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        • jlevie
          R3V OG
          • Nov 2006
          • 13530

          #19
          That is a metric tape measure.
          The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
          Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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          • ReallyDirtyThirty
            E30 Addict
            • Jul 2010
            • 449

            #20
            Tonight I'm going to try to drastically compress the spring and re-attempt installation. The KYB's are about three inches longer than the Sach's or Biltstien units when fully extended. I think this combined with a stock spring makes installation of this particular set-up more difficult than if I either had A.) Sach's of Bilstien strut w/ stock spring because the strut is shorter or B.) KYB Strut with a lowering spring.

            If the Lord is willing, I'll be able to get this mounted tonight. As a R3V take-away though, I wouldn't reccomend this set-up for a DIY installation. Either get different struts or different springs. Ideally, get a better checking account than mine and get Billy's and H&R's!!

            I'll update you guys in the morning. Thanks for all your help.

            -Rob
            www.truegearhead.com
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            • Mr. Tasty
              No R3VLimiter
              • Jul 2011
              • 3421

              #21
              Originally posted by jlevie
              That is a metric tape measure.

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              • Sputnik
                E30 Modder
                • Jan 2010
                • 808

                #22
                I had kyb and vogtlands on a vert of mine. I'd stay away from kyb's its shitty quality and made the ride even crappier then it was before. It left major play in the front end


                no me guesta. buy bilsteins...

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                • StereoInstaller1
                  GAS
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 22679

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ReallyDirtyThirty
                  -Rob
                  I bet you're wondering why you win all the polls, huh?

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                  • ReallyDirtyThirty
                    E30 Addict
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 449

                    #24
                    I have always wondered that but I was too afraid to ask because R3V is like a wild exotic animal; it waits for one iota of ignorance or stupidity and then it pounces and mauls you with mortal ferocity.

                    So I chose to keep my mouth shut.
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                    • StereoInstaller1
                      GAS
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 22679

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ReallyDirtyThirty
                      I have wondered that but I was afraid to ask because R3V is like a wild exotic animal; it waits for one iota of ignorance or stupidity and then it pounces and mauls you with mortal ferocity.

                      So I chose to keep my mouth shut.
                      'tis old news, and yes, R3V does tend to prey upon those who show any sign of weakness...but search, it has been answered many times. I get the feeling you will fit in just fine. Got pics of the ride up yet?

                      Luke

                      Closing SOON!
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                      Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

                      Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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                      • ReallyDirtyThirty
                        E30 Addict
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 449

                        #26
                        No pictures of the ride yet. Right now I still haven't been able to get back in and finally sort out this strut fitment issue. I ended up going to Happy Hour last night which really knocked out a lot of my motivation. With the car up on jackstands and two dangling front struts that won't fit on the car, this is probably the best rendering of what my ride looks like currently:

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                        • ReallyDirtyThirty
                          E30 Addict
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 449

                          #27
                          UPDATE:

                          Finally got the strut assembly onto the control arm last night. I borrowed my neighbors impact gun and compressed that f-ing spring down to nothing. It took the force of two men, but it got done. With these lessons I should be able to do the other side this weekend and finally have the car back on the road, A WEEK AFTER I STARTED THE JOB!!!

                          The KYB's seems like fine strut inserts, but I wouldn't reccomend them to anyone who wants to use the stock springs on their car. The combination of the longer strut plus a stock spring makes it almost impossible to install. Either go for OEM struts or lowering springs. I'm happy we were able to yield some good knowledge out of all this pain and suffering.

                          Thanks for all the help and advice R3V.
                          www.truegearhead.com
                          - bad decisions & questionable cars

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                          • Bearmw
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 1323

                            #28
                            This has been painful
                            Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. -Mark Twain

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                            • browndog
                              Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 41

                              #29
                              As a R3V take-away though, I wouldn't reccomend this set-up for a DIY installation. Either get different struts or different springs.
                              Hmmm...I need new front struts asap, but I can't dish out the $$$ for a Bilstein/H&R setup right now (paying for a wedding in two months). I was thinking of going with KYB GR-2 (part 364021) with Vogtland springs (http://www.ebay.com/itm/KYB-4-SHOCKS...item5d3029ab60), but after reading your horror story, I'm wary of the KYBs. My setup would be with lowering springs (1.6"), but still...what do you think? Still a huge PITA to fit? Seems like they would be...

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                              • scottinAZ
                                E30 Fanatic
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 1312

                                #30
                                I installed KYB's with H&R sports not more than a week ago with no issues. Could nearly install the front springs onto the struts with no compressor. could not see how they would be too long for OP, but YMMV. no issues here
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