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  • TMS335
    Noobie
    • Apr 2012
    • 29

    #1

    GC camber plates help

    has anyone had issues installing the adjustable ground control camber plates? The bottom of the plates do not have enough clearance from upper spring perch. When the wheel is turned the bottom of the plate catches the spring perch. I have bilstein shocks and springs on the car.
  • mr.vang
    R3V Elite
    • May 2010
    • 4371

    #2
    i believe yours are made for coilover only. gc should have a different one made just for lowering/stock spring. give gc a call
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    • MR 325
      Moderator
      • Oct 2003
      • 37825

      #3
      Correct, they will only work if they were designed to run with stock diameter springs.
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      • e30leigh
        E30 Addict
        • Mar 2012
        • 481

        #4
        theres 3 different ones. stock spring perch ones, race items (i believe these require the stock spring perch?) and the coilover ones that will only take a/m springs and need to be ordered to specific requirements to what size spring you have.

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        • TMS335
          Noobie
          • Apr 2012
          • 29

          #5
          Here is a picture of how the bottom of the plate does not have enough clearance from the upper spring perch and some pictures of the plates that i have.
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          • Hellabad
            E30 Modder
            • Aug 2008
            • 807

            #6
            Those are "Spec e30" plates, made for one thing only: To make a Spec e30 racecar go fast.

            You should mount them in the car, and set the front camber to -3.5.

            Then the spring perch will just barely clear the mounts, in order to have the car as low as possible in class where every car has the same springs and struts.

            This is all designed to be this way. Any other design would be slower.
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            • TMS335
              Noobie
              • Apr 2012
              • 29

              #7
              Yeah that's what the car is being built for, but i'm just having an issue getting these put on. I'm not doing the install but the shop that is doing it is having the problems. So what you're saying is have them put the plates on and with the camber adjusted to -3.5 they will clear the upper spring perch during steering? What did you cut and re weld the perch for?

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              • Hellabad
                E30 Modder
                • Aug 2008
                • 807

                #8
                Originally posted by TMS335
                Yeah that's what the car is being built for, but i'm just having an issue getting these put on. I'm not doing the install but the shop that is doing it is having the problems.
                The shop may need to call GC, but honestly they shouldn't have any questions. This is extremely basic stuff.

                Originally posted by TMS335
                So what you're saying is have them put the plates on and with the camber adjusted to -3.5 they will clear the upper spring perch during steering?
                yes

                Originally posted by TMS335
                What did you cut and re weld the perch for?
                The spec e30 rules (http://www.nasaproracing.com/rules/spec30_rules.pdf) do not allow anyone to replace the stock upper perch . Therefore the car must use the stock upper perch (31 33 1 128 524), GC Camber/caster plates do NOT come with a perch, because you already have them and they are required by the rules.

                If there is any welding of the upper perch (dropped perch?), then the car is illegal, so GC does not do any welding.
                Last edited by Hellabad; 07-12-2012, 09:07 AM.
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                • Hellabad
                  E30 Modder
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 807

                  #9
                  TMS335, TMS325:

                  I have also answered this exact question where you posted it on a few other forums, asking:

                  "GC camber plates help
                  has anyone had issues installing the adjustable ground control camber plates? "

                  If you could let me know how many forums you posted this in, I would like to reply to all of them. I am sure you did not want to give the impression that there was something wrong with your Ground Control camber/caster plates, but that could be inferred when posted in many places.
                  Last edited by Hellabad; 07-12-2012, 11:10 AM. Reason: 106
                  Here is my photo gallery answering common questions about Ground Control Suspension, and e30 suspension problems in general.
                  Ground Control Gallery

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