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  • Brandon12V
    E30 Fanatic
    • Feb 2008
    • 1318

    #1

    Koni Shock issue...

    Just ordered brand new compress-to-adjust shocks through tckline(80-2522). Looks like they were drop shipped from koni. I open the box and theyre fully compressed... I decompress them by hand and compress them with ease. They will not decompress on their own. At all. Brand new. What the fuck. They also won't even adjust when full compressed.

    Originally posted by Ryan...
    It now emits a beautiful blue-ish yellow/green smoke from the exhaust?? No idea what would cause that color, but I assume its good.
  • Stanley Rockafella
    R3V Elite
    • Aug 2011
    • 4056

    #2
    Originally posted by Brandon12V
    I decompress them by hand and compress them with ease. They will not decompress on their own.

    it's supposed to be like that

    expansion is done with the coil sping (when mounted). contraction is done withthe weight of the car. Shocks are only supposed to CONTROL the rate (speed) at which the suspension absorbs shocks.
    If it's got tits or tires, it's gonna cost ya!

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    • Brandon12V
      E30 Fanatic
      • Feb 2008
      • 1318

      #3
      Originally posted by Stanley Rockafella
      it's supposed to be like that

      expansion is done with the coil sping (when mounted). contraction is done withthe weight of the car. Shocks are only supposed to CONTROL the rate (speed) at which the suspension absorbs shocks.
      you mean just koni, right? because my bilstein sports do not act like this..



      Originally posted by Ryan...
      It now emits a beautiful blue-ish yellow/green smoke from the exhaust?? No idea what would cause that color, but I assume its good.

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      • Cinnabar325is
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Mar 2011
        • 1064

        #4
        Yes, they're gas charged I know, but I've found that some new shocks rebound on their own very well and some don't, but that doesn't mean anything is wrong with them. I just got brand new Koni adjustables two days ago through GC and they only partially rebound.

        As long as they resist you pulling the piston out with ease, you're good to go.

        EDIT: Yeah, it seems in my experience that Bilsteins rebound on their own more strongly than Konis.
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        • LJ851
          R3V OG
          • Nov 2010
          • 7918

          #5
          I have konis, they are not the same as bilsteins. Did you even read the instructions on how to adjust them before you spewed shit all over the internet? There is a rubber bump stop up in the top of the outer portion that must be removed to allow the shock to compress far enough to lock into the adjuster. Its a split rubber ring that is held in by that groove near the top of the shock.


          Also, since you cant read you should know that it only adjusts rebound.
          Lorin


          Originally posted by slammin.e28
          The M30 is God's engine.

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          • Brandon12V
            E30 Fanatic
            • Feb 2008
            • 1318

            #6
            Actually I did smartass. FYI- there is NO reading. There are three generic pictures on half a sheet of paper. And these didn't come with bump stops. There is nothing inside the top portion besides the white plastic spacer(which I removed). You basically told me everything I already knew which is why I'm here posting this thread. I know they adjust rebound, they still shouldn't compress that easily. Thank you for not helping in any way ethug fuck.

            Originally posted by Ryan...
            It now emits a beautiful blue-ish yellow/green smoke from the exhaust?? No idea what would cause that color, but I assume its good.

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            • Nsquared97
              E30 Mastermind
              • Sep 2010
              • 1656

              #7
              Just bought a set of used Koni's, and they do the same thing. Had me kinda worried as my OEM units, although rusted to hell, rebound all the way on their own fairly rapidly. As long as the shock resists you trying to compress or expand it, you should be good.

              BTW, LJ851 is right, there should be a bump stop already installed in the shock you have to remove. A little searching would have helped you out, this question has been posted many times ;) Check out the last post in this thread, should help you out.

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              • LJ851
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2010
                • 7918

                #8
                Originally posted by Brandon12V
                Actually I did smartass. There is nothing inside the top portion besides the white plastic spacer(which I removed).
                This is r3v, i feel obligated to be a smart ass ;)

                The rubber bump stop is very hard to see up in there and can be a pain to remove particularly the first time. You have to poke it through the holes in the top to unseat it. With a little grease on it, it comes out a lot easier.

                The koni shocks dont have nearly the gas pressure that bilsteins do. I have H&R race springs with mine and there is not nearly enough compression damping especially on rough roads.
                Lorin


                Originally posted by slammin.e28
                The M30 is God's engine.

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                • Brandon12V
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1318

                  #9
                  That kind of bums me out about the compression bc I have the same springs you do. Should have not been a cheap little bitch and bought double adjustables. Balls.

                  Originally posted by Ryan...
                  It now emits a beautiful blue-ish yellow/green smoke from the exhaust?? No idea what would cause that color, but I assume its good.

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                  • TobyB
                    R3V Elite
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 5163

                    #10
                    Umm, a gas- charged shock that's charged to a high- enough pressure to do anything about oil foaming
                    WILL spit its piston out the top.

                    The old Reds weren't gas- charged, and behaved and adjusted as you describe. I ran a pair for a while-
                    they were pretty good shocks for what they were, which was cheap.

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                    • lambo
                      Captain Scene Points
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 10953

                      #11
                      Kind of on topic... But, when my car is jacked up (i.e. wheels off the ground) and I apply a downward force on my driver's side rear wheel, the Koni shock expands and kinda drops... Is that normal?

                      Originally posted by SpasticDwarf;n6449866
                      Honestly I built it just to have a place to sit and listen to Hotline Bling on repeat.

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                      • nrubenstein
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 3148

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Brandon12V
                        Actually I did smartass. FYI- there is NO reading. There are three generic pictures on half a sheet of paper. And these didn't come with bump stops. There is nothing inside the top portion besides the white plastic spacer(which I removed). You basically told me everything I already knew which is why I'm here posting this thread. I know they adjust rebound, they still shouldn't compress that easily. Thank you for not helping in any way ethug fuck.
                        Actually, some Konis are designed to function like this. Many of them have almost no bump damping and will self retract rather than extend.

                        If you knew, well, pretty much anything about dampers, you would not compare Bilsteins (high gas pressure monotubes) to Konis (low/no pressure twin tubes. They are not the same. They really aren't even similar.
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