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  • grapedrink
    E30 Mastermind
    • Nov 2003
    • 1514

    #16
    I want a bar that you can adjust inside the car

    I have ST sways and GC kit. Have yet to install them but reviews about the combo are good.

    Originally posted by DaveCN
    Welcome.

    Your car is a piece of shit.

    Most of them here are, too.

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    • Nick325is
      E30 Fanatic
      • Oct 2003
      • 1409

      #17
      I currently have 625/450 spring rates on my ground control setup with the IE 25mm hollow front bar. I have been more than happy with running no rear bar. With the rear bar in the car had way too much oversteer. With no rear bar the handling is much more neutral overall.



      Nick

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      • IS
        Grease Monkey
        • Jul 2005
        • 366

        #18
        The rear bar is not the cause of your oversteer - unbalanced spring rates are.

        By eliminating the rear bar, you no longer have minor adjustability in your suspension - kind of a waste after spending so much money, don't you think?
        87 325IS - Delphin Grey/Cardinal

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        • rwh11385
          lance_entities
          • Oct 2003
          • 18403

          #19
          adjust my byua the rear rates yo. it's easy to change mo focucks ... .. and then you be like cooooooool

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          • erik325i
            No R3VLimiter
            • Jan 2005
            • 3567

            #20
            Originally posted by rwh11385
            adjust my byua the rear rates yo. it's easy to change mo focucks ... .. and then you be like cooooooool
            :loco:
            what the hell did he just say?

            -Erik

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            • rwh11385
              lance_entities
              • Oct 2003
              • 18403

              #21
              you _ can _ adjust _ balance _ by the rear rates. springs are cheap. just swap them. it's easy. and i'm too drunk for this shit.

              later
              heeter

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              • NC325iC
                R3V OG
                • Mar 2004
                • 6565

                #22
                so whats that i heard about special ST convertible bars...
                Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                Originally posted by TimKninja
                Im more afraid of this thread turning into one of those classic R3v moments, where Pizza gets delivered.

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                • e30 vs e30
                  Noobie
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 32

                  #23
                  stiffer isnt always better

                  I never understood why a lot of people like to go crazy with stiffer and stiffer springs. Unless the car is strictly track driven, and the track is perfectly smooth, you are just going to get a back end that will be hopping around over any bumps. The point of sway bars is to maintain a suspension setup that can still absorb imperfections in the road surface while minimizing weight distribution from body lean around corners.
                  Every part of the suspension has a necessary contribution to the overall handling performance of your car. In tuning your suspension all parts from tires to bushings need to be taken into consideration. Simply changing wheel and tire sizes on my car changed it from slight understeer to more than enough oversteer. You change or adjust one thing and the geometry and effect of all other components may need some tweeking.
                  "And many E30 M3s were cut up for racecars, which never really made much sense--you can race a 325i much more economically and still lose to Porches just as well."

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                  • einstein57
                    R3V OG
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 10780

                    #24
                    BMW originally only offered rear sway bars in the european models as they felt americans would not control a car with a performance suspension.
                    Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                    www.gecoils.com
                    My euro 316 project Transaction Feedback

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                    • matt
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 3731

                      #25
                      Originally posted by e30 vs e30
                      I never understood why a lot of people like to go crazy with stiffer and stiffer springs. Unless the car is strictly track driven, and the track is perfectly smooth, you are just going to get a back end that will be hopping around over any bumps. The point of sway bars is to maintain a suspension setup that can still absorb imperfections in the road surface while minimizing weight distribution from body lean around corners.
                      Every part of the suspension has a necessary contribution to the overall handling performance of your car. In tuning your suspension all parts from tires to bushings need to be taken into consideration. Simply changing wheel and tire sizes on my car changed it from slight understeer to more than enough oversteer. You change or adjust one thing and the geometry and effect of all other components may need some tweeking.
                      Do the porches still pass you?

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                      • Vicarious
                        Wrencher
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 223

                        #26
                        Originally posted by erik325i
                        I used to have ST sways, and had the rear adjusted to the not-as-stiff possition. There was way too much oversteer in the stiff position.

                        They are nice, but here is what I don't like about them:
                        *Front bar is not adjustable
                        *Front bar uses stock endlinks
                        *Limited adjustability in the rear (only two settings)


                        I just picked up a set of IE swaybars, and am pretty satisfied with them so far. The front bar is three-way adjustable. The rear bar is infinitely adjustable. I also like the way the rear mount is beefier and mounts to the trunk floor.



                        I currently have the front on full stiff, while the rear bar is pretty soft. I still need to see how it handles like this, and I will adjust the rear bar accordingly.

                        -Erik

                        I just installed my ST sways the other day, well only the front so far because i ran out of time, i was doing shox/springs, CA's all that.
                        I snapped my stock end link mount on the control arm, so i gave it some thoguth and built a total custom set up. I used the rear sway bar end links, wich are solid by the way, and their mounting thingies for the control arm. I'm not sure what im going to use for the rear now, i was thikning of calling some retailer and ordering another set of those custom solid end links. I have to say that it rides awesome with the solid links. I bought the stock rubber replacement ones for the front but couldnt use them because they cant fit into the rear end link mounts. So... Yea there are options, you just gotta play around.

                        By the way to everyone on here, is this a bad idea to use sold sway links up front?

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                        • eugeman
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 306

                          #27
                          Eibach sway bar set

                          Anybody run an Eibach sway bar set and what settings are you using?

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