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  • AndrewBird
    The Mad Scientist
    • Oct 2003
    • 11897

    #16
    Originally posted by AdamF 88iS
    What are you guys talking about lowering the diff and compressing springs for the rears? I've done dozens of them and never had to do either. Disconnect the shocks and sway bar on both sides and use a little muscle to pop them in/out.
    That's what Josh and I did with his IE3's. I don't know why you guys are having so much trouble.

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    • IS
      Grease Monkey
      • Jul 2005
      • 366

      #17
      Ie3s are substantially shorter than stock springs. What you are "muscling" is actually your cv joints. Brilliant idea.
      87 325IS - Delphin Grey/Cardinal

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      • Gus
        Wrencher
        • Jan 2004
        • 285

        #18
        Originally posted by AdamF 88iS
        What are you guys talking about lowering the diff and compressing springs for the rears? I've done dozens of them and never had to do either. Disconnect the shocks and sway bar on both sides and use a little muscle to pop them in/out.
        im with this guy

        i have H&R sports too....went in ridiculously easy. just disconnect sway bar and shock. stock springs are a wee bit of a bitch though i will agree. and as for CV's being muscled, you really think they are going to be affected by a couple of seconds of being at the limit of their range of movement?
        JUNGL3



        1990 "333i" Sport

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        • Garageaholic
          Freestyle Fabricator
          • Dec 2005
          • 5204

          #19
          Originally posted by IS
          Ie3s are substantially shorter than stock springs. What you are "muscling" is actually your cv joints. Brilliant idea.
          actually i didnt have my half shafts in. I put them in through the top hold first and finally snapped them into place on the bottom hole
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          • AndrewBird
            The Mad Scientist
            • Oct 2003
            • 11897

            #20
            Originally posted by M3fan4eva
            actually i didnt have my half shafts in. I put them in through the top hold first and finally snapped them into place on the bottom hole
            Ditto, we did it the same way, but with halfshafts in. And we sure as hell didn't have to press hard enough that anything would happen to the halfshafts.

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            • Garageaholic
              Freestyle Fabricator
              • Dec 2005
              • 5204

              #21
              how are your ears andrew?
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              • AndrewBird
                The Mad Scientist
                • Oct 2003
                • 11897

                #22
                Originally posted by M3fan4eva
                how are your ears andrew?
                Getting better every day. :)

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                • BahnE30
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1050

                  #23
                  Originally posted by IS
                  Ie3s are substantially shorter than stock springs. What you are "muscling" is actually your cv joints. Brilliant idea.
                  you think you "muscling" the CV joints is going to put more of a strain on them then driving. get a grip. there's over 2500 lbs of strain on them everytime you move the car

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                  • 1991 318is
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 786

                    #24
                    No problem here either.

                    Do all three of the following.
                    1) Jack up car with both rear wheels off the ground.
                    2) Disconnect shocks.
                    3) Disconnect sway bars from trailing arms.
                    There may be a little extra drag with new trailing arm bushings. I've done this three times.

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                    • Garageaholic
                      Freestyle Fabricator
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 5204

                      #25
                      Yeah, but the drag on the trailing arms is all but null... if anything, the drag would be on the trailing arm tabs and maaaybe the subframe studs as the trailing arms hang down..
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                      • arsevader
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • May 2005
                        • 1025

                        #26
                        Originally posted by BahnE30
                        you think you "muscling" the CV joints is going to put more of a strain on them then driving. get a grip. there's over 2500 lbs of strain on them everytime you move the car
                        It's not the amount of strain that's the problem. It's the fact that the CV joints aren't flexed in their normal position of movement.

                        No U-joint or CV likes to be have pressure placed on them outside of their normal range of movement. That's a fact.

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                        • Garageaholic
                          Freestyle Fabricator
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 5204

                          #27
                          Originally posted by arsevader
                          It's not the amount of strain that's the problem. It's the fact that the CV joints aren't flexed in their normal position of movement.

                          No U-joint or CV likes to be have pressure placed on them outside of their normal range of movement. That's a fact.
                          Yeah, I think that just about every guy on this forum would agree with you.. Everybody says that when you are removing your diff or anything like that, you MUST hang your half shafts by string or zip tie or watever...because naturally leaving them hanging will be outside of their normal range of movement, thus creating unnecessary stress
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                          • AdamF 88iS
                            R3VLimited
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 2051

                            #28
                            Originally posted by M3fan4eva
                            Yeah, I think that just about every guy on this forum would agree with you.. Everybody says that when you are removing your diff or anything like that, you MUST hang your half shafts by string or zip tie or watever...because naturally leaving them hanging will be outside of their normal range of movement, thus creating unnecessary stress
                            As long as you don't turn them while hanging they are ok.
                            Adam Fogg- '88 M3

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                            • AdironRider
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 3491

                              #29
                              I pushed down on the brake/hub assembly a bit and my H&R OE sports slid right in.
                              Back to my roots

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                              • BimmerTom
                                Wrencher
                                • May 2006
                                • 255

                                #30
                                I'm going to have to disagree with the CV's being "stressed" when hanging down.

                                Running a CV at a severe angle (think of the front end of improperly lifted IFS trucks) will shorten the life of the CV, however.

                                The only problem I can see with hanging your CV's down is pulling at the CV boots. If they crack, they probably need to be replaced anyways.

                                FWIW, I just pulled out my rear springs by disconnecting the shocks, pulling out the sway bar (I'm replacing it) and a crowbar. Popped the springs right out.

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