Why are my H&R Race springs higher then H&R Sports?

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  • JGood
    R3V OG
    • Jan 2004
    • 7959

    #1

    Why are my H&R Race springs higher then H&R Sports?

    So I put H&R Race springs and Bilstein Sports, along with new control arms and bushings and shock mounts front and rear, on my 87 325is. It's been about 4 days now, with about 300-400 miles of driving, including a very high speed and bumpy AutoX (hit 65-70 mph). The car sits 1/4" higher then my 85 325e with H&R Sports/Bilstein Sports. Doesn't make sense... The springs fit in the strut loosely, I can move them around when the car is jacked up. When it's down, the spring sits in the upper and lower perches correctly. But it just sits higher. It feels slightly firmer, but not rock hard like I was expecting. The 325is weighed in at 2730 lbs, the 325e is 2800 lbs on the same scale. 70 lbs isn't going to drop the car 1". Tires are the same diameter as the 325e. Is it going to settle that much over the next few weeks?
    85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
    e30 restoration and V8 swap
    24 Hours of Lemons e30 build
  • egk2
    R3VLimited
    • Nov 2003
    • 2426

    #2
    You sure you got the race springs? How old is your eta's setup? It's most likely due to the new upper strut mounts and new bilstein sports.

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    • egk2
      R3VLimited
      • Nov 2003
      • 2426

      #3
      I was under the impression that the race springs were much lower than the sports but not really:
      Specs are from tms.
      Race= front 1.6/rear 1.5
      Sport=front 1.5/rear 1.25

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      • JJe30
        R3VLimited
        • May 2006
        • 2044

        #4
        That's what everyone lists them at but I would say my races dropped close to or a lil over 2" or so.
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        • NomadE30
          Wrencher
          • Mar 2007
          • 236

          #5
          they haven't settled yet, give them a few weeks and they should be lower maybe the setup in the cars are different what is the production dates?

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          • golde30
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2003
            • 11464

            #6
            get some vorschlag camber plates, you will be able to dial in more camber for auto-X, AND they have a much lower stack height than stock FSM, so the front will come down a lil.
            IG: @Baye30

            FRONT VALENCE IS ZENDER!!! STOP FILLING MY PM BOX PPL!!!

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            • e30xcel
              Advanced Member
              • Aug 2004
              • 141

              #7
              Originally posted by golde30
              get some vorschlag camber plates


              where can I get those?
              hellaflush x driftunit

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              • JGood
                R3V OG
                • Jan 2004
                • 7959

                #8
                Originally posted by JJe30
                That's what everyone lists them at but I would say my races dropped close to or a lil over 2" or so.
                That's what I've seen, people with H&R race springs are normally much lower then mine looks. It doesn't even scrape the underside coming into my driveway, where as my 325e does (I pull in at the exact same spot, at the exact same speed - about .5 mph ). Plus I lined my cars up side by side, the 325is is not ANY lower. I know my 325e may have "worn" suspension, but it doesn't look any lower then any other H&R sport setup. I'll post some pics, the car looks like it's on H&R Sports though.
                85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                e30 restoration and V8 swap
                24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                • egk2
                  R3VLimited
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 2426

                  #9
                  I think you may have gotten vamboozled.

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                  • JGood
                    R3V OG
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 7959

                    #10
                    I think I left a jack stand under my car, that's why it's higher. I'll check and get back with you guys. Hopefully it didn't mess anything up, driving around for a few hundred miles.

                    85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                    e30 restoration and V8 swap
                    24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                    • Dave
                      E30 RAT
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 11675

                      #11
                      How on earth were you driving with a jack stand under your car for hundreds of miles and not know it??
                      Current Cars
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                      • asubimmer
                        R3V OG
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 6482

                        #12
                        huh? its not april anymore...
                        ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                        • backtrail69
                          R3V Elite
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 4471

                          #13
                          What...
                          :: PNW Crew ::
                          '87 325 4dr, '74 2002

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                          • PiercedE30
                            R3V Elite
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 4220

                            #14
                            *meat wod voice* do what now?
                            My 2.9L Build!

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                            There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.

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                            • JGood
                              R3V OG
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 7959

                              #15
                              Yeah, I think a jack stand might be under the car. I might have even left the actual jack under there too.

                              I'll check it out and let you guys know.
                              85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                              e30 restoration and V8 swap
                              24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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