Why are my H&R Race springs higher then H&R Sports?

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  • CarsSuck
    E30 Modder
    • Oct 2005
    • 968

    #16
    --Will

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    • smonkbmw
      Professor
      • Jun 2006
      • 4549

      #17
      roffl!!!!!!!!!!! this thread has got to be stickied somewhere

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      • SA E30
        E30 Fanatic
        • Feb 2004
        • 1248

        #18
        I lolled... new age air jacks ?

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        • jhower08
          E30 Addict
          • Jan 2005
          • 494

          #19
          i actually drove around with jack stands still under my car for a little. made my suspension stiff as hell and i won a race at watkins glen like that!!!1!

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          • JGood
            R3V OG
            • Jan 2004
            • 7959

            #20
            Originally posted by jhower08
            i actually drove around with jack stands still under my car for a little. made my suspension stiff as hell and i won a race at watkins glen like that!!!1!
            YOU DIDN'T WIN. I passed you right before the line by going through pit lane. I had 3 ton jack stands under my car for maximus tractionz!!!!i!!!



            OK. Seriously though, does anyone know why my Race springs are not as low as they should be? It's been a decent amount of time, with some HARD driving. Stock spring pads, new everything (control arms/bushings, mounts, etc...)
            85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
            e30 restoration and V8 swap
            24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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            • JRKOUPE
              No R3VLimiter
              • Dec 2004
              • 3159

              #21
              hr race...

              I run HR race......Im a bit lower than most sports I line up to at track events.......I even added thicker rear sprg pads to avoid the droopy look.

              are they red? they should be..........hmmmmm.

              any pics?.......

              I run koni's.

              I love sitting down and just driving!

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              • JGood
                R3V OG
                • Jan 2004
                • 7959

                #22
                Originally posted by JoelRKaplan
                I run HR race......Im a bit lower than most sports I line up to at track events.......I even added thicker rear sprg pads to avoid the droopy look.

                are they red? they should be..........hmmmmm.

                any pics?.......

                I run koni's.

                The colors don't matter. I've seen blue, gray, red, and they've been OE, sports, race, - nothing correlates.

                The front springs say "EBS BMW 3/1" as far as I remember. They are red, but so are my sports. I can feel and see the coil spacing is not as big as on my sports. My race springs actually fit in my strut assembly loosely, I had to hold the spring in place as I tightened the bolt to line it up with the spring pad and perch. They feel a lot stiffer, but my 325e's suspension has high miles (not sure if that should really make it "softer").

                I'd say the vehicle is now dead even height with my 325e on sports, which is a good 100 lbs heavier. I've done a lot of aggressive driving, 3 autoX's, a lot of highway driving, etc... I'm confident they will not go any lower.

                Not that I'm disappointed, the car performs amazing, and I don't have to drive like a grandma over speed bumps. But I wouldn't mind if it was a little lower.
                85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                e30 restoration and V8 swap
                24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                • Garageaholic
                  Freestyle Fabricator
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 5204

                  #23
                  Justin, did you install the HR sports on your 325e yourself? Do you know if the spring pads were left in the assembly when it was reassembled? bc if there are no spring pads on the 325e, that could explain it, bc we left the spring pads in on the red 325is....
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                  • JGood
                    R3V OG
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 7959

                    #24
                    Originally posted by M3fan4eva
                    Justin, did you install the HR sports on your 325e yourself? Do you know if the spring pads were left in the assembly when it was reassembled? bc if there are no spring pads on the 325e, that could explain it, bc we left the spring pads in on the red 325is....
                    Yes, that car has spring pads. I'm not even necessarily comparing my two cars, I'm comparing my 325is to what it SHOULD look like. It looks higher then any other early e30's I've seen with race springs, despite the actual and advertised drop.

                    Considering the advertised drop of 1.6" and the reduced weight of the car, they are right where they should be. But that means that everyone else with this setup is sitting lower then they should be...
                    85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                    e30 restoration and V8 swap
                    24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                    • whelton70
                      Advanced Member
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 115

                      #25
                      Did you buy the springs new or used ? The part number for race springs on the H&R box is 50404-88 and the numbers on the front springs are EBS-BMW 3/1(f) and the rear springs are RG 701 HA.10 these are the numbers on my brand new set still waiting to go onto car. The only way to get the race springs for an e30 is to order them for a e30 M3 as H&R do not list a race spring in their catalog for any e30 325 or 318 at all only available in sports for those fitments

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                      • JGood
                        R3V OG
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 7959

                        #26
                        Originally posted by whelton70
                        Did you buy the springs new or used ? The part number for race springs on the H&R box is 50404-88 and the numbers on the front springs are EBS-BMW 3/1(f) and the rear springs are RG 701 HA.10 these are the numbers on my brand new set still waiting to go onto car. The only way to get the race springs for an e30 is to order them for a e30 M3 as H&R do not list a race spring in their catalog for any e30 325 or 318 at all only available in sports for those fitments
                        I bought them second hand, but new. Those are the part numbers I have.
                        85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                        e30 restoration and V8 swap
                        24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                        • whelton70
                          Advanced Member
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 115

                          #27
                          not sure what to tell you then

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                          • matt
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3731

                            #28
                            dont worry about it.

                            Lower isnt always better. Did you buy the races for the looks?

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                            • JGood
                              R3V OG
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 7959

                              #29
                              Originally posted by matt
                              dont worry about it.

                              Lower isnt always better. Did you buy the races for the looks?
                              No, it's a track car. I was just worried the strut mounts were installed wrong or something like that.
                              85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                              e30 restoration and V8 swap
                              24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                              • matt
                                No R3VLimiter
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 3731

                                #30
                                Doubtful. Just make sure your springs are seated properly, then drive it like you stole it.

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