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  • DoriftuEvo
    Wrencher
    • Feb 2005
    • 236

    #16
    Originally posted by z31maniac
    Yes, bearings are METAL balls. So why would you think hard plastic would stiffer?


    Regardless of the material being used, it appears to me that the AKG bearings are spherical type bearings and would allow rotational movement around the Z and X axes as shown in the above image. That's why I think the "feel" would be stiffer with the THR units. Linear axial movement might be stiffer in the AKG units due to the use of harder materials. This is speculation. I don't claim to have done any analysis deeper than that.

    Maybe the bearing is simply for ease of installation and the suspension doesn't realistically flex in that way. Maybe the bearings aren't even spherical and I need glasses or a bigger picture to look at.
    Last edited by DoriftuEvo; 03-03-2008, 09:44 AM.

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    • CorvallisBMW
      Long Schlong Longhammer
      • Feb 2005
      • 13039

      #17
      ^ spoken like a true engineer! awesome.

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      • scabzzzz
        Estado de mierda de encargo
        • Jul 2007
        • 6870

        #18
        Search this up. Theres been numerous threads about the THR Eyeball arms with a lot of debate. They are superior to most everything else.

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        • iwantone
          Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 57

          #19
          you do not NEED them for a swaped car, i use regular m3 bushings for my m50 swap and works fine. but with that said, i do plan on purchasing these down the line because i think they will help the little shimmy my car has at high speeds and should make the front end feel more solid.

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          • fretburnr
            E30 Fanatic
            • Jan 2005
            • 1496

            #20
            Another benefit to the treehouse units is ease of installation. Unlike any bushing that uses the stock lollipops, these don't require a press to install. Road feel is superb, and the benefits of m3 geometry are well documented. Due to the minimal flex, turn in is excellent.
            Also, those spherical bearings would require periodic lubrication or inspection, and would be susceptible to damage from dirt and debris on a street car.

            Pardon my lack of spacing... i'm typing this on a phone.
            Jay

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            • e30 gangsta
              No R3VLimiter
              • Jul 2004
              • 3877

              #21
              So i have normal poly bushings non offset. And im running a s52 header. Will it clear?

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              • CorvallisBMW
                Long Schlong Longhammer
                • Feb 2005
                • 13039

                #22
                huh, so it looks like I have a decision to make. I don't want to 'vert to be too stiff since it will be a dd (which is why I was planning on doing M3 offsets), but if the THRs are that much better as far as feel/control, and there is little, if any, loss of comfort, I may have to go with them.

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                • Sean
                  R3V Elite
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 5793

                  #23
                  Originally posted by CorvallisBMW
                  huh, so it looks like I have a decision to make. I don't want to 'vert to be too stiff since it will be a dd (which is why I was planning on doing M3 offsets), but if the THRs are that much better as far as feel/control, and there is little, if any, loss of comfort, I may have to go with them.
                  I honstly didn't notice any loss in comfort. The loss of my comfort is felt by my Konis and IE Stg 3s. All the THR bushings do is let you feel more road irregularities with your wheel - which honestly isn't that bad. But, with soft suspension, I don't think I'd even notice a change.

                  I love being able to feel everything. Granted, it sucks going fast thru a really bumper turn...actually, it's impossible. But smooth roads are heavan! :D
                  - Sean Hayes

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                  • z31maniac
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 17566

                    #24
                    Originally posted by DoriftuEvo


                    Regardless of the material being used, it appears to me that the AKG bearings are spherical type bearings and would allow rotational movement around the Z and X axes as shown in the above image. That's why I think the "feel" would be stiffer with the THR units. Linear axial movement might be stiffer in the AKG units due to the use of harder materials. This is speculation. I don't claim to have done any analysis deeper than that.

                    Maybe the bearing is simply for ease of installation and the suspension doesn't realistically flex in that way. Maybe the bearings aren't even spherical and I need glasses or a bigger picture to look at.
                    Good explanation.

                    Originally posted by scabzzzz
                    Search this up. Theres been numerous threads about the THR Eyeball arms with a lot of debate. They are superior to most everything else.
                    Ahhh yes, the I don't have anything to offer in this thread response.

                    But way to suggest a search when the thread is on its second page.
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                    • Wishno87
                      R3V OG
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 6025

                      #25
                      Yes guys I'm bumping a fossilized thread but I was wondering if anyone could tell me what sort of grease if any I should apply when installing the CABs. I heard that squeaking was an issue with these if they are not properly lubricated.
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                      • Sean
                        R3V Elite
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 5793

                        #26
                        He used different bushing material - never a squeak. Since I put the new bushing in, they are silent. However - the arms themselves have NO powdercoat left - I need to recoat them.
                        - Sean Hayes

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                        • Wishno87
                          R3V OG
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 6025

                          #27
                          So no lubrication then?
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                          • Gooch
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 1674

                            #28
                            Nope. No squeaks or other noises here either.

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                            • Wishno87
                              R3V OG
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 6025

                              #29
                              Good to know, thanks guys!
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                              • Sean
                                R3V Elite
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 5793

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Wishno87
                                So no lubrication then?
                                Depends on the condition of the control arm rod.....
                                - Sean Hayes

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