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  • 325isStephen
    Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 88

    #16
    i'd go 450/650 or 550/750
    Why do you say that? why such a big difference between front and rear?

    Sorry im a noob when it comes to spring rates.

    Steve

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    • Jean
      Moderator
      • Aug 2006
      • 18228

      #17
      Both will work fine, it really is a preference. The reason why front to rear isn't 1 to 1 is because front vs. rear suspension (wheel rates) aren't the same.

      Also, what one e30 driver recommends might be different for you, as you might run different size wheels/tires/shocks. One might be on camber plates and you might be on stock oem bushings.... too many variables....

      This is really something you have to try and if it's too stiff, you can buy another set of springs from GC (front or rear or both) and swap to your liking.
      Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



      OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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      • erik325i
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jan 2005
        • 3567

        #18
        You need to run a stiffer spring in the rear because of the suspension design. The rear spring is located inboard on the trailing arm, whereas the front spring is located directly on the strut.

        Erik

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        • kishg
          R3VLimited
          • Sep 2006
          • 2624

          #19
          Originally posted by Jean
          Both will work fine, it really is a preference. The reason why front to rear isn't 1 to 1 is because front vs. rear suspension (wheel rates) aren't the same.

          Also, what one e30 driver recommends might be different for you, as you might run different size wheels/tires/shocks. One might be on camber plates and you might be on stock oem bushings.... too many variables....

          This is really something you have to try and if it's too stiff, you can buy another set of springs from GC (front or rear or both) and swap to your liking.
          i assumed he's getting the full kit including camber plates, koni sa etc. when i was selecting spring rates there was a rule of thumb of 2/3: 1 front to rear.. i think this was based off gustav's website which alas is down right now.
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          • 325isStephen
            Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 88

            #20
            I think i might try 450/650, seems to be really stiff, but not overly stiff i guess. I just want to keep my oil pan from hitting the ground very easily, but dont want to make the ride excessivly rough when i dont need it

            Steve

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            • gearheadE30
              No R3VLimiter
              • Jun 2007
              • 3734

              #21
              Just remember that you are putting a great deal of stress on the stock bushings with those rates, or aftermarket suspension period. JStuff will wear out more quickly, especially if it wasn't designed for the load or already has a lot of miles.

              If you are going with all new rubber bushings, the only thing I'd be worried about is the frunt upper strut mounts. They just won't last very long of you have any kind of rough roads with those rates.

              Project M42 Turbo

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              • 325isStephen
                Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 88

                #22
                So if i were to keep some the bushings i have, ie not touch them. then i would prob have to replace them in the future anyways? just due to all of the vibrations etc getting moved to them instead of being absorbed by the springs/shocks.

                But the upper strut mounts, if i get the gc kit it will come with camber plates and all that good stuff, would i still have to worry/count on replacing it every year or something, or should it be fine.

                by the way thanks alot for the info guys, really helping me out.

                Steve

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                • Jean
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 18228

                  #23
                  Camber plates don't have any rubber components to them, it's all metal and bearing. So, you'll bring more vibration into the car/chassis. I would go with H&R race springs if you are not going with camber plates imho.
                  Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                  OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                  • 325isStephen
                    Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 88

                    #24
                    No i am going with camber plates, as i said before i'll be going with the gc track school setup which includes camber plates with the package.


                    so is it the consensous that i will be fine with camber plates with stiff rates, or do i still need to worry about wearing out mounts?

                    Steve

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                    • Jean
                      Moderator
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 18228

                      #25
                      Camber plates were designed in mind with stiff rates, so they don't have the same wear as the rubber mounts.

                      Rear OEM mounts will probably be the first to go.
                      Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                      OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                      • 325isStephen
                        Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 88

                        #26
                        the gc kit also comes with new rear mounts.

                        Steve

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                        • E30trash
                          Hella Flush
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 1873

                          #27
                          go for stiffer rates, 600/700 i wish i got those.

                          my gc's go about this low



                          that's all the way down on the front with my modified strut tubes.

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                          • E30trash
                            Hella Flush
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 1873

                            #28
                            also those are 205/40's

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                            • scabzzzz
                              Estado de mierda de encargo
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 6870

                              #29
                              Are you going to daily drive this car? Im running a setup no one else seems to be running..

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                              • 325isStephen
                                Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 88

                                #30
                                yes this is my only car so I will be dailying it.

                                Steve

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