How to best adjust camber?

[iamsam]

OP:

Toe out will wear the insides of tires WAY faster than negative camber. Toe-out is a scrubbing situation, while negative camber is a rolling one. The E30 is sorta unique in that the rear alignment goes toe-out as well as camber neg when lowered or RTABs are shot. This presents a compounded tire wear problem. My point is that you should do whatever you can to correct toe before camber.

gotcha. Is toe factory adjustable?

[iamsam]

Bavauto has a sale on camber plates. But my concern is are they any good??

i was looking at them, they don't look all that sturdy (compared to GC for example)

[Fidhle007]

thank you, that makes much more sense. Since i am relatively new to this whole thing (my first E30, my first time lowering a car substantially) i have alot to learn. I never thought of the fact that as the car leans around a corner, camber increases (negatively) to keep the wheel flat on the road. good info.

Sorry I came off so strong. My point was basically to check your alignment first before you spend money on stuff that may not help. Knockenwelle hit the nail pretty square on the head.

gotcha. Is toe factory adjustable?

No, but if your control arms and subframe are straight you should be able to just put in new bushings and call it a day. You'll want to have that checked by a shop though, IE does sell kits for adjustment should you need it.

i was looking at them, they don't look all that sturdy (compared to GC for example)

Don't bother. They look like overpriced Kmac knockoffs.

[iamsam]

No, but if your control arms and subframe are straight you should be able to just put in new bushings and call it a day. You'll want to have that checked by a shop though, IE does sell kits for adjustment should you need it.

new bushings as in offset hole bushings? or stock?

[Fidhle007]

new bushings as in offset hole bushings? or stock?

Stock if everything's straight. You'll still have camber but things will be more consistent.

[einstein57]

I'm happy with my kmac fronts but hate my bav auto adjustable rear eccentric trailing arm bushings. They are constantly coming loose. If i were to do it again (and i might) i'd just relocate the mounting points on the rear subframe and weld on reinforcement plates.

[iamsam]

I'm happy with my kmac fronts but hate my bav auto adjustable rear eccentric trailing arm bushings. They are constantly coming loose. If i were to do it again (and i might) i'd just relocate the mounting points on the rear subframe and weld on reinforcement plates.

IE makes the weld-on rear eccentric bolts. Are they any good?

[einstein57]

Not sure. I'm just through with eccentric bolts.

[notoriousracing]

Just get a blowtorch and a big pipe and bend them back, I did this, it works great!

[Knockenwelle]

I'm using eccentric adjuster bolts in Delrin bushings for RTABs. I made my own set of slotted adjuster plates cause I didn't like how loose IE's fit the head of the bolt. Haven't had any problems with them, and don't expect to. The adjustability is worth all the effort.

[Fidhle007]

Just get a blowtorch and a big pipe and bend them back, I did this, it works great!

Bend what back?

[for3ver]

I made my own set of slotted adjuster plates cause I didn't like how loose IE's fit the head of the bolt. Haven't had any problems with them, and don't expect to. The adjustability is worth all the effort.

any chance you wanna make another set? how much?

[Knockenwelle]

Prolly more than what IE sells them for. But know that I make fully-machined, precision parts. I also used tool steel instead of mild for its machinability and surface finish. I was not happy with the slop in the IE version, as a different adjustment on each side of the same bushing or a cocked bolt due to slop is not my idea of a precision alignment and defeats the purpose of making things right in the first place. In all practicality, it can also cause binding with semi-solid bushings like Delrin, too. But I would consider making another set if you're an obnoxiously fastidious perfectionist like me and willing to pay for them.

[87e30]

No, but if your control arms and subframe are straight you should be able to just put in new bushings and call it a day. You'll want to have that checked by a shop though, IE does sell kits for adjustment should you need it.
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Wait, so are you saying putting the car on an alignment rack doesn't actually offer ways to align it? Becuase after lowering I can feel my steering wheel/alignment is off.

And on a side note it cracks me up that honda guys flamed me for not getting a camber kit when I lowered and no one here cares. Love it.

[nando]

you can adjust front toe, but that's it.

fidhle's point is a lot of the excessive camber in the back is caused by 20 year old worn out rubber bushings. replacing them with new parts will make a big difference.