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  • Dirtsquirt
    Mod Crazy
    • Nov 2004
    • 686

    #16
    How much work was required for the 245's? Any pics?

    I'm getting some 16x9's for the rear but am not too keen on the whole "euro" stretched look. Fender rolling isn't a problem and is the requirement as I have a cup kit :roll:

    -Dan

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    • egk2
      R3VLimited
      • Nov 2003
      • 2426

      #17
      Good luck fitting 245's especially with a cup kit, I have trouble fitting 215's in the rear and I'm on eibachs and rolled/pulled fenders.

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      • egk2
        R3VLimited
        • Nov 2003
        • 2426

        #18
        Re: 16x9 wheels question

        Originally posted by royalflush313
        I know you are sick of hearing, "will the wheels fit?" but I don't wanna search through meaningless, pointless threads, so help me out. :)

        - 16x9 wheels (front & back)
        - ET15 offset
        - 10mm spacers all around
        - 215/45/16s all around

        It'd be nice to run 225s, but I dont want to have problems with rubbing. (My car is a 318iS on Bilstein Sports & H&R Sports).

        Someone has a Red Cab on 16x9 CR-7s, and looks like you are running 215s? What size spacers were required, and what (if any) fender mods were needed?

        TIA
        You'll need to roll your fenders no matter what to fit 16x9's, the spacers you need are system 2 hubcentrics with the lips on them, 10mm is the smallest one I've seen. I have 215/40/16's but when these are done I'm going with 215/45/16.

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        • bmwdude
          Wrencher
          • Feb 2005
          • 268

          #19
          Originally posted by royalflush313
          Originally posted by Mystikal
          It took me about 32 seconds of searching, you will need 5mm spacers up front, and you will only need to roll them well.
          with 225s?

          Im gonna try searching again, but people seem to say different things, so Im never sure. Maybe I'll just have to try it.
          I have 9X16's on my car (rears) and 16X7.5 (front). I want you to listen to me.

          First of all, what year is your E30? After 88, the rear fenders had slightly different geometry than the pre 88 ones....

          Mine is a pre 88. If your 9X16's will indeed have an ET15, the you will NOT NEED SPACERS!! This wheel will be a bolt on affair for your car. As for tire selection, width is not always the issue. It is also tire diameter. For this wheel, you willl have to go with a 225-40-16. Not 45 series! 40. A 215 will give too much of a stretch look.......You should not have any issues at all with that setup! This is a common look in Europe.....

          I have 245-45-16's on mine! The optimum killer size would of been 245-40-16, instead of 45 series, but this unfortunately, does not exist. So the issues that I had to deal with were DIAMETER problems. Not width. The tire was too tall. So yes, I had to pull out the fenders, and even then, there was some rubbing when I'd put someone in the back seat/while accelerating. I'm running a H&R cup kit by the way.

          So stick with 225-40-16's on your 16X9 with ET15 and NO spacers, and you'll be good to go.

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          • egk2
            R3VLimited
            • Nov 2003
            • 2426

            #20
            Originally posted by bmwdude
            Originally posted by royalflush313
            Originally posted by Mystikal
            It took me about 32 seconds of searching, you will need 5mm spacers up front, and you will only need to roll them well.
            with 225s?

            Im gonna try searching again, but people seem to say different things, so Im never sure. Maybe I'll just have to try it.
            I have 9X16's on my car (rears) and 16X7.5 (front). I want you to listen to me.

            First of all, what year is your E30? After 88, the rear fenders had slightly different geometry than the pre 88 ones....

            Mine is a pre 88. If your 9X16's will indeed have an ET15, the you will NOT NEED SPACERS!! This wheel will be a bolt on affair for your car. As for tire selection, width is not always the issue. It is also tire diameter. For this wheel, you willl have to go with a 225-40-16. Not 45 series! 40. A 215 will give too much of a stretch look.......You should not have any issues at all with that setup! This is a common look in Europe.....

            I have 245-45-16's on mine! The optimum killer size would of been 245-40-16, instead of 45 series, but this unfortunately, does not exist. So the issues that I had to deal with were DIAMETER problems. Not width. The tire was too tall. So yes, I had to pull out the fenders, and even then, there was some rubbing when I'd put someone in the back seat/while accelerating. I'm running a H&R cup kit by the way.

            So stick with 225-40-16's on your 16X9 with ET15 and NO spacers, and you'll be good to go.
            I think he's looking to run 16x9's et 15 in front as well, I can tell you from first hand experience that they definitely hit the strut housings in the front, therefore a spacer is needed, as for the rear, no spacer is needed at all but if you bring the fronts out with a spacer, a rear spacer would even out the look.

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            • bmwdude
              Wrencher
              • Feb 2005
              • 268

              #21
              Originally posted by egk2
              Originally posted by bmwdude
              Originally posted by royalflush313
              Originally posted by Mystikal
              It took me about 32 seconds of searching, you will need 5mm spacers up front, and you will only need to roll them well.
              with 225s?

              Im gonna try searching again, but people seem to say different things, so Im never sure. Maybe I'll just have to try it.
              I have 9X16's on my car (rears) and 16X7.5 (front). I want you to listen to me.

              First of all, what year is your E30? After 88, the rear fenders had slightly different geometry than the pre 88 ones....

              Mine is a pre 88. If your 9X16's will indeed have an ET15, the you will NOT NEED SPACERS!! This wheel will be a bolt on affair for your car. As for tire selection, width is not always the issue. It is also tire diameter. For this wheel, you willl have to go with a 225-40-16. Not 45 series! 40. A 215 will give too much of a stretch look.......You should not have any issues at all with that setup! This is a common look in Europe.....

              I have 245-45-16's on mine! The optimum killer size would of been 245-40-16, instead of 45 series, but this unfortunately, does not exist. So the issues that I had to deal with were DIAMETER problems. Not width. The tire was too tall. So yes, I had to pull out the fenders, and even then, there was some rubbing when I'd put someone in the back seat/while accelerating. I'm running a H&R cup kit by the way.

              So stick with 225-40-16's on your 16X9 with ET15 and NO spacers, and you'll be good to go.
              I think he's looking to run 16x9's et 15 in front as well, I can tell you from first hand experience that they definitely hit the strut housings in the front, therefore a spacer is needed, as for the rear, no spacer is needed at all but if you bring the fronts out with a spacer, a rear spacer would even out the look.
              Are you suggesting that the wheel itself will rub on the strut housing, or the tire? If it wasn't for my car being in storage for the winter, I would galdly take off my rear 16X9, and slap it on the front, just to see. I'm not insisting, perhaps you are right about the front rubbing.......I'm trying to rember how much clearance was left with my 225-45-16 up front, near the strut, but can't visualize......

              Interestingly enough, I was preparing to start a new thread concerning me wanting to buy 17X9.5 ET 30 with 15mm spacer from tunershop, on all 4 corners!! The guy I talked to on the phone claimed that this will work! I too am worried about the front strut housings. Before I place my order from him, I need a final confirmation that it will NOT rub from him and others.

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              • egk2
                R3VLimited
                • Nov 2003
                • 2426

                #22
                I have 16x9's all the way around et15 and preferred not to run a spacer but the inside of the wheel made contact with the strut housing, not the tire. Steve from tunershop used to tell people that they slap right on w/o spacers but now he knows otherwise.

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                • alex
                  R3VLimited
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 2024

                  #23
                  Originally posted by bmwdude
                  Are you suggesting that the wheel itself will rub on the strut housing, or the tire? If it wasn't for my car being in storage for the winter, I would galdly take off my rear 16X9, and slap it on the front, just to see. I'm not insisting, perhaps you are right about the front rubbing.......I'm trying to rember how much clearance was left with my 225-45-16 up front, near the strut, but can't visualize......

                  Interestingly enough, I was preparing to start a new thread concerning me wanting to buy 17X9.5 ET 30 with 15mm spacer from tunershop, on all 4 corners!! The guy I talked to on the phone claimed that this will work! I too am worried about the front strut housings. Before I place my order from him, I need a final confirmation that it will NOT rub from him and others.
                  That exacly what he's saying. Here are the pics. 16x9 ET15 will touch the strut housing without the spacer. For your new proposed combo you need to consider the wheel dimeter as well at least in the front as the strut housing is not vertical.

                  Pics:

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                  • egk2
                    R3VLimited
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 2426

                    #24
                    Alex, sorry I haven't been able to weigh a wheel/tire for you yet, I will probably get around to it this week.

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                    • alex
                      R3VLimited
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 2024

                      #25
                      Originally posted by egk2
                      Alex, sorry I haven't been able to weigh a wheel/tire for you yet, I will probably get around to it this week.
                      Thanks, let me know when you do.

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                      • bmwdude
                        Wrencher
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 268

                        #26
                        Originally posted by alex
                        Originally posted by bmwdude
                        Are you suggesting that the wheel itself will rub on the strut housing, or the tire? If it wasn't for my car being in storage for the winter, I would galdly take off my rear 16X9, and slap it on the front, just to see. I'm not insisting, perhaps you are right about the front rubbing.......I'm trying to rember how much clearance was left with my 225-45-16 up front, near the strut, but can't visualize......

                        Interestingly enough, I was preparing to start a new thread concerning me wanting to buy 17X9.5 ET 30 with 15mm spacer from tunershop, on all 4 corners!! The guy I talked to on the phone claimed that this will work! I too am worried about the front strut housings. Before I place my order from him, I need a final confirmation that it will NOT rub from him and others.
                        That exacly what he's saying. Here are the pics. 16x9 ET15 will touch the strut housing without the spacer. For your new proposed combo you need to consider the wheel dimeter as well at least in the front as the strut housing is not vertical.

                        Pics:
                        http://e30.us/images/brock-b1/loose/
                        I would like to thank you for the pics and egk2 for confirming things too. I really appreciate that! I run 1.7 negative camber up front, so for sure mine would touch.

                        For my new setup then, I will go with my initial plan of a staggered set up.

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                        • alex
                          R3VLimited
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 2024

                          #27
                          Originally posted by bmwdude
                          Originally posted by alex
                          Originally posted by bmwdude
                          Are you suggesting that the wheel itself will rub on the strut housing, or the tire? If it wasn't for my car being in storage for the winter, I would galdly take off my rear 16X9, and slap it on the front, just to see. I'm not insisting, perhaps you are right about the front rubbing.......I'm trying to rember how much clearance was left with my 225-45-16 up front, near the strut, but can't visualize......

                          Interestingly enough, I was preparing to start a new thread concerning me wanting to buy 17X9.5 ET 30 with 15mm spacer from tunershop, on all 4 corners!! The guy I talked to on the phone claimed that this will work! I too am worried about the front strut housings. Before I place my order from him, I need a final confirmation that it will NOT rub from him and others.
                          That exacly what he's saying. Here are the pics. 16x9 ET15 will touch the strut housing without the spacer. For your new proposed combo you need to consider the wheel dimeter as well at least in the front as the strut housing is not vertical.

                          Pics:
                          http://e30.us/images/brock-b1/loose/
                          I would like to thank you for the pics and egk2 for confirming things too. I really appreciate that! I run 1.7 negative camber up front, so for sure mine would touch.

                          For my new setup then, I will go with my initial plan of a staggered set up.
                          It doesn't matter how much camber you run. The strut housing has an inherent incline to it that influences the clearance vs diameter vs offset.

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                          • bmwdude
                            Wrencher
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 268

                            #28
                            Originally posted by alex
                            Originally posted by bmwdude
                            Originally posted by alex
                            Originally posted by bmwdude
                            Are you suggesting that the wheel itself will rub on the strut housing, or the tire? If it wasn't for my car being in storage for the winter, I would galdly take off my rear 16X9, and slap it on the front, just to see. I'm not insisting, perhaps you are right about the front rubbing.......I'm trying to rember how much clearance was left with my 225-45-16 up front, near the strut, but can't visualize......

                            Interestingly enough, I was preparing to start a new thread concerning me wanting to buy 17X9.5 ET 30 with 15mm spacer from tunershop, on all 4 corners!! The guy I talked to on the phone claimed that this will work! I too am worried about the front strut housings. Before I place my order from him, I need a final confirmation that it will NOT rub from him and others.
                            That exacly what he's saying. Here are the pics. 16x9 ET15 will touch the strut housing without the spacer. For your new proposed combo you need to consider the wheel dimeter as well at least in the front as the strut housing is not vertical.

                            Pics:
                            http://e30.us/images/brock-b1/loose/
                            I would like to thank you for the pics and egk2 for confirming things too. I really appreciate that! I run 1.7 negative camber up front, so for sure mine would touch.

                            For my new setup then, I will go with my initial plan of a staggered set up.
                            It doesn't matter how much camber you run. The strut housing has an inherent incline to it that influences the clearance vs diameter vs offset.
                            Yes...I knew that :oops: Thanks again!

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                            • alex
                              R3VLimited
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 2024

                              #29
                              Originally posted by bmwdude
                              Yes...I knew that :oops: Thanks again!
                              Sure :up: No problem ;)

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                              • imwhyteyo
                                E30 Enthusiast
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1165

                                #30
                                I run 255/45 ;) back from the dead.

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