ix guys, know if this wheel will fit?

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  • jocoby22
    Noobie
    • Oct 2004
    • 22

    #1

    ix guys, know if this wheel will fit?

    Called tirerack today to see if the 17" ASA AR1 wheel would fit my car (because tirerack shows the 17" BBS RGR fitting and it has the same backspacing as the AR1) Anyway the guy told me that the AR1 wont fit and the only reason the RGR fits is because it needs a spacer. (Do you think he is taking in consideration that ix's use a differen't offset?) First off, what is the stock offset on the 15" basketweave? Second couldn't I just use a spacer on the AR1 wheel? And if the offset is 38 on it shouldn't it fit anyway?

    On another note, can someone explain to me why an ix uses a differen't offset?

    Bellow is the link to the wheels I want, im sure you all think they are junk or whatever but I like them. And besides I can't shell out the cash for the RGR's

  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #2
    17x8 ET40 will rub the strut in the front. you need a lower offset with that wheel, probably around ET30-27. you'll also have to run a tiny tire, like 205/45-17 in order to clear the rear fender, unless your car is stock height. and if it's stock.. uhh. I don't need to go farther.

    factory offset is 42mm for the 15x7 BBS. the offset is because of the AWD. it's not just a slapped on deal.. much of the car was reingeneered for the drivetrain. And I doubt your wheel guy will know about the ix, unless he's from the tirerack.
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    • jocoby22
      Noobie
      • Oct 2004
      • 22

      #3
      Thanks, that was helpful. One more thing though, the ASA AR1's are 17X7 not 17X8 is this going to make a difference? Also the tirerack page for my car says that the 16" ASA AR1's do fit my car with the same 38 offset as the 17" AR1's. So I guess if the 17" rub up front its because of that extra inch? What if I run a 205/40/17 tire, I know its skinny, but not anymore then stock, and these wont be my track set up, just show.

      If I do decide to go with a 16" wheel I was thinking about running 215/45/16 rubber on them. Just because the 205/50/16 tire is slightly larger then stock(I know only by like .2") and I don't want to raise the car back up even just a little. Is this rubber going to fit or is this another bad idea? What offset should I run in this case?

      Thanks for all the help though I had no clue at first why I had to run a differen't offset, and im the kind of guy who likes to know why. But to get this strait I can run a normal e30 offset of like et30? How is this possible?

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      • Mystikal
        Moderator
        Wheel Fitment Expert
        • Nov 2003
        • 9602

        #4
        Hark, if they are only 7" wide they WILL work ET38. 215/40/17 tires likely, too.

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        • Jordan
          R3V OG
          • Oct 2003
          • 12907

          #5
          17x7 et38 will rub the struty housing.

          Really needs at least a 10mm spacer.

          my wheels are same size/et as above, and i can fit a piece of paper between the housing and the wheel. must run spacers!
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          • nando
            Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 34827

            #6
            the link I followed said 17x8, Et40.. but if they are 17x7 ET38 they should fit no problem (jordan, he has an ix...). I would still run a 10mm spacer though, otherwise it will look a bit goofy being so far inside the fenders.
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            • jocoby22
              Noobie
              • Oct 2004
              • 22

              #7
              Alright, you guys have been a great help so far. Next question is should I use a 10mm hubcentric wheel spacer or just a normal 10mm wheel spacer from H&R?

              Here is a stupid question, what is the difference?

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              • jocoby22
                Noobie
                • Oct 2004
                • 22

                #8
                Yeah, nevermind stupid question, guess they don't make hubcentric spacer's for my car. So I guess I will go with the 8mm H&R spacers.

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                • jocoby22
                  Noobie
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 22

                  #9
                  And to bother people one more time, think I will be able to fit 215/40/17 rubber with the 17X17 wheel at et38 and 8mm spacers or is this cutting it to close and im just going to have to try it and find out the hard way?

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                  • Mystikal
                    Moderator
                    Wheel Fitment Expert
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 9602

                    #10
                    You WILL NOT need any type of spacer with an ET38 wheel and 215 tires. It will fit just fine.

                    IF you want a more aggressive appearance, you can run a spacer to push the wheel outwards. This is STRICTLY for appearance.

                    DO NOT run 8mm H&R spacers. You WILL get a vibration through the steering wheel, you basically lose all hubcentric capacity.

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                    • jocoby22
                      Noobie
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 22

                      #11
                      Alright, well what kind of spacers should I get then?

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                      • nando
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 34827

                        #12
                        of course they make hubcentric spacers for the ix. it has the same centerbore and bolt pattern as any E30. Hubcentric is not optional, it's a requirement.
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                        • Mystikal
                          Moderator
                          Wheel Fitment Expert
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 9602

                          #13
                          Originally posted by nando
                          of course they make hubcentric spacers for the ix. it has the same centerbore and bolt pattern as any E30. Hubcentric is not optional, it's a requirement.
                          You missed the point.

                          H&R 8mm spacers DO NOT have a hub lip, so you will get vibrations if you use them.

                          If you can find a spacer smaller than 15mm with the lip get it, but if I were you I wouldn't bother at all.

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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #14
                            jordan has 10mm H&R hubcentric spacers..
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                            • T.Dot E30
                              E30 Addict
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 536

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nando
                              jordan has 10mm H&R hubcentric spacers..
                              You dont get it do u?
                              Jay is saying H & R's 8mm spacers are not hubcentric, I believe bcus of the smaller size its harder to find a 8mm hubcentric spacer....there is not much room to make a 57.1mm hub, The ones i've seen have a bigger aftermarket hub size (60+mm) ie factory wheels wont work, the hub from the car is almost flush with the spacer.

                              ALSO you guys do realize he's driving an iX right? The offset is not the same as normal e30s

                              EDIT:

                              Sorry i wasn't going to point this out, but its not very often the e30 god is wrong. :D

                              Originally posted by Jordan
                              17x7 et38 will rub the struty housing.
                              Really needs at least a 10mm spacer.
                              my wheels are same size/et as above, and i can fit a piece of paper between the housing and the wheel. must run spacers!
                              Originally posted by nando
                              factory offset is 42mm for the 15x7 BBS. the offset is because of the AWD.
                              If nando is correct^^, 17x7 et38, will be further out of the fenders than stock, i'd be more concerned about the fender not the strut, but it shouldn't matter unless too wide of a tire is used.

                              Im sure jordan just missed the fact that it was an ix

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