Tire fitment question

[C ///M]

Tire manufactures do not all make the same exact sizes and specs. I'm not going to argue about what came on the E36. But your #2 point is contradictory and stupid. The explaination about the smaller sidewall giving less give, is absolutely NOT TRUE! Quite the contrary. Anyways, ironically, as you said, experience is what speaks in the end, and the truth evntually comes out.
I'm no E36 specialist, but there seems to be quite a bit of controversy in BMW forums on E36 tire fitments on those 7.5's. Didn't BMW change that rediculous fitment???

I can tell from your comments you have absolutely zero experience with the topic at hand. Please stop posting in this thread.

Next, not all tires are created equal, true, but close enough within tolerances or tire fitments would be a mess and utterly complicated, which it isn't.

Next, My point #2 is 100% right-on, albeit worded incompletely. Larger sidewalls are more contoured (or "bubbled") and can fit narrower wheels. Again, you offer no reasoning, no facts, no experience, nothing, just a worthless "NOT TRUE"

Nick has his answer. This thread is over.

[bmwdude]

Tire manufactures do not all make the same exact sizes and specs. I'm not going to argue about what came on the E36. But your #2 point is contradictory and stupid. The explaination about the smaller sidewall giving less give, is absolutely NOT TRUE! Quite the contrary. Anyways, ironically, as you said, experience is what speaks in the end, and the truth evntually comes out.
I'm no E36 specialist, but there seems to be quite a bit of controversy in BMW forums on E36 tire fitments on those 7.5's. Didn't BMW change that rediculous fitment???

I can tell from your comments you have absolutely zero experience with the topic at hand. Please stop posting in this thread.

Next, not all tires are created equal, true, but close enough within tolerances or tire fitments would be a mess and utterly complicated, which it isn't.

Next, My point #2 is 100% right-on, albeit worded incompletely. Larger sidewalls are more contoured (or "bubbled") and can fit narrower wheels. Again, you offer no reasoning, no facts, no experience, nothing, just a worthless "NOT TRUE"

Nick has his answer. This thread is over.

Yes Nick has his answer. Based only on the fact that the 95 M3 did come with 7.5's and 235-40's. One more fuck up for the E36.

Now I will post here for just me and youC.///M. I do not like when someone accuses of no experience. I won't elaborate on the Physics here, just keep it simple. I''ll use my experience vs yours. Can you fit a 225-45-16 on a 16X9 wheel? A typical E30 wheel size in Europe. One that I have by the way. Or does the tire have to be 225-40-16 in order to fit it on the 9X16 properly? Oh...wait....45series allows more flex than the 40 series...based on your uh hum....imaginatory scientific thinking a couple of paragraphs ago(#2 statement). No sir. One CAN see how you thought this up, but one with experience, one would know, that contrary to imagination, a LOWER aspect ratio allows for wider wheel sizes. Find me a 225-45-16 on a 16X9, and I'll pat you on the back here online. You won't find it. Find yourself a tire chart from Toyo or Kumho, and you might see (as seeing is believing also) of what I'm talking about. I can back everything up my little weenie friend. Can you? Yes this thread is over. I'll agree with you on that.

[C ///M]

Yes Nick has his answer. Based only on the fact that the 95 M3 did come with 7.5's and 235-40's. One more fuck up for the E36.

Now I will post here for just me and youC.///M. I do not like when someone sais no experience. I won't elaborate on the Physics here, just keep it simple. I''ll use my experience vs yours. My question to you for all to read. Can you fit a 225-45-16 on a 16X9 wheel? A typical E30 wheel size in Europe. One that I have by the way. Or does the tire have to be 225-40-16 in order to fit it on the 9X16 properly? Oh...wait....45 allows more flex than the 40 series...based on your uh hum....imaginatory scientific thinking. No sir. One CAN see how you thought this up, but one with experience would know, that contrary to imagination, a LOWER aspect ratio allows for wider wheel sizes. Find me a 225-45 on a 16, and I'll pat you on the back here online. You won't find it. Find yourself a tire chart from Toyo or Kumho, and you'll might see (as seeing is believing also) of what I'm talking about. I can back everything up my little weenie friend. Can you? Yes this thread is over. I'll agree with you on that.

alright, I was polite, but you're an idiot and seem to want to take this further. Get your head out of your ass so as maybe you can learn something.

Let me get this straight, you're comparing 225/45 on a 16x9 wheel with 235/40's and a 17x7.5.
You said:

a LOWER aspect ratio allows for wider wheel sizes.

depending on the width of course...now you'll notice that that complements exactly what I said. We're not talking about wider wheels here, are we, we're talking about narrow wheels. A smaller aspect ratio, depending on width, allows for wider wheels, and concurrently, a larger aspect ratio, depending on width, allows for narrower wheels as the outter mounting rim of the tire is closer to the centerline of the tire.

Now, YOU FUCKING IDIOT... since you love to cling to manufacturers data and suggestiongs, go look at what "approved rim widths" are allowed for ANY 225/45R16 tire. 16x9 is NOT APPROVED YOU FUCKING IDIOT. Did I mention you're a FUCKING IDIOT. I was polite, you have have no idea what you're talking about, you just shoved your foot in your mouth while your head is up your ass and around the corner.

How's that for everyone to read, you fucking moron.

EDIT: It would do you a lot of good to know who you're talking to before you make yourself look like a complete, useless dumbass.

[bmwdude]

Yes Nick has his answer. Based only on the fact that the 95 M3 did come with 7.5's and 235-40's. One more fuck up for the E36.

Now I will post here for just me and youC.///M. I do not like when someone sais no experience. I won't elaborate on the Physics here, just keep it simple. I''ll use my experience vs yours. My question to you for all to read. Can you fit a 225-45-16 on a 16X9 wheel? A typical E30 wheel size in Europe. One that I have by the way. Or does the tire have to be 225-40-16 in order to fit it on the 9X16 properly? Oh...wait....45 allows more flex than the 40 series...based on your uh hum....imaginatory scientific thinking. No sir. One CAN see how you thought this up, but one with experience would know, that contrary to imagination, a LOWER aspect ratio allows for wider wheel sizes. Find me a 225-45 on a 16, and I'll pat you on the back here online. You won't find it. Find yourself a tire chart from Toyo or Kumho, and you'll might see (as seeing is believing also) of what I'm talking about. I can back everything up my little weenie friend. Can you? Yes this thread is over. I'll agree with you on that.

alright, I was polite, but you're an idiot and seem to want to take this further. Get your head out of your ass so as maybe you can learn something.

Let me get this straight, you're comparing 225/45 on a 16x9 wheel with 235/40's and a 17x7.5.
You said:

a LOWER aspect ratio allows for wider wheel sizes.

depending on the width of course...now you'll notice that that complements exactly what I said. We're not talking about wider wheels here, are we, we're talking about narrow wheels. A smaller aspect ratio, depending on width, allows for wider wheels, and concurrently, a larger aspect ratio, depending on width, allows for narrower wheels as the outter mounting rim of the tire is closer to the centerline of the tire.

Now, YOU FUCKING IDIOT... since you love to cling to manufacturers data and suggestiongs, go look at what "approved rim widths" are allowed for ANY 225/45R16 tire. 16x9 is NOT APPROVED YOU FUCKING IDIOT. Did I mention you're a FUCKING IDIOT. I was polite, you have have no idea what you're talking about, you just shoved your foot in your mouth while your head is up your ass and around the corner.

How's that for everyone to read, you fucking moron.

EDIT: It would do you a lot of good to know who you're talking to before you make yourself look like a complete, useless dumbass.

Can you read REAL english you self pretentious loser? That is what I wrote! You CANNOT fit a 225-45-16 on a 9X16! BUT YOU CAN FIT A 225-40-16 on a 16X9!!!!!!!!!! PERHAPS, I should of made the obvious more clear! Read the rest of the paragraph CAREFULLY, before taking things out of bloody context!!! YES, for once you are right in suggesting to read "my" tire manufacturers specs!! AND IF YOU DID, you would see that even a 235-40-17 is NOT FUCKING RECOMMENDED!!!!! NOT ON A 7.5inch rim. Even if BMW did do this on the E36. 235-40-17 is NOT generally recommended on a 7.5 inch. a 235-45-17 series would be! And based on my maximum width thing, a 235-40-17 can go to a maximum 9.5 inch. A 235-45 maximum would be 9.0 inch.

Just because BMW did this on the 95 M3, does not mean it is generally acceptable. Go on some of the E36 forums, and check out E36 M3 tire fitments. A very common and problematic question this is concerning the lousy 7.5 inch rim BMW offered on the E36. It is recommended to go to 8 inch. Like I said, an other E36 fuck up!

AND as I said before, quit taking my sentences out of context!!!!! You'd make an excellent lawyer. I don't mean that as a compliment.

[C ///M]

Can you read REAL english you self pretentious loser? That is what I wrote! You CANNOT fit a 245-45-16 on a 9X16! BUT YOU CAN FIT A 225-40-16 on a 16X9!!!!!!!!!! PERHAPS, I should of made the obvious more clear! YES, for once you are right in suggesting to read tire manufacturers specs!! AND IF YOU DID, you would see that even a 235-40-17 is NOT FUCKING RECOMMENDED!!!!! NOT ON A 7.5inch rim. Even if BMW did do this on the E36.

Can you spell, type, or be useful in the least bit?

1. You said yourself have a 9x16in wheel with 225/45R16 tires

Can you fit a 225-45-16 on a 16X9 wheel? A typical E30 wheel size in Europe. One that I have by the way.

If you only meant that you have a 16x9 wheel, then you should learn to speak english.

Next, I know 235/40 is not recommended on a 17x7.5, but it works perfectly, if you had a clue or the least bit experience, you'd know that.

Next,

ou CANNOT fit a 245-45-16 on a 9X16! BUT YOU CAN FIT A 225-40-16 on a 16X9!!!!!!!!!!

Now you're talking about 245s...oh, that's right, you need to work on your english skills, I assume you still mean 225s, because a 245/45 easily fits on a 16x9.

Next, (and I'll truly love this one)

Find me a 225-45 on a 16, and I'll pat you on the back here online.

Contact "bert" here on r3v. 16x9 Brock B1's with 225/45R16 AVS ES100s. It's a beautiful black '90 325i sport package. Here is a link to his thread: http://www.r3vlimited.com/phpBB2/vie...r16&t=8031
it's a shame the picture is no longer uploaded, if anyone has it, email it to me and I'll host it.

So, are you going to "pat me on the back" here online? Or will you again be too busy trying to get your foot out of your mouth.

"self pretentious loser" go back and read everythign you've said, you ignorant little child. Let me guess, 17? The lack of verbal skills and multiple exclamation points leads me to believe such. But then again, you are an e30 owner from Canada, and every single one of you, except Jay (and Randy from back in the day), has demonstrated to be completely worthless and have absolutely no grasp of reality nor technical knowledge.

Go look in the mirror, maybe then you can squeeze your head out of your ass.

[bmwdude]

Like I said before. You love to take things out of context. I'll have to be honest, that it's hard for me to concentrate and type correctly on my laptop, as I try to watch a movie on tv at the same time. But for what it's worth, I'll write it again. You CANNOT install a 225-45-16 on a 9 incher. You can if it is a 225-40-16. Trust me I know. I have this setup. I've tried it. I'm not going to bother with this anymore. You are the classic r3v weenie. Lots of people love this site and so do I, but for some weird reason....anyways, it's not worth my time........

I can't help but noticing here that you mention that I'm someone from Canada, and we are worthless. Oh well, I'm sure the rest of the planet will have a good laugh at that one. So how does it feel to be isolated in virtually everything? Remember, you started that. In true consistent fashion.

[C ///M]

Like I said before. You love to take things out of context. I'll have to be honest, that it's hard for me to concentrate and type correctly on my laptop, as I try to watch a movie on tv at the same time. But for what it's worth, I'll write it again. You CANNOT install a 225-45-16 on a 9 incher. You can if it is a 225-40-16. Trust me I know. I have this setup. I've tried it. I'm not going to bother with this anymore. You are the classic r3v weenie. Lots of people love this site and so do I, but for some weird reason....anyways, it's not worth my time........

I can't help but noticing here that you mention that I'm someone from Canada, and we are worthless. Oh well, I'm sure the rest of the planet will have a good laugh at that one. How does it feel to be isolated in virtually everything? Remember, you started that. In true consistent fashion.

Make sure you note that I mention Canadian E30 Owners, not canadians. And I'm sure to mention the only 2 Canadian e30 owners who have ever demonstrated that they have technical knowledge and are intelligent that I've come in contact with.

Next, read my post above dumbass. 225/45R16 fits easily on a 16x9 and guess what, a 235/40R17 fits super easy on a 17x7.5 As a matter of fact, its much easier to fit a 235/40R17 on a NOT RECOMENDED 17x7.5 wheel than it is to stretch your useless 225/40R16 on a 16x9.

Again, I've stayed in context, and judged you based on your extremely poor technical knowledge and lack of any rationality or intelligence.

Again, reread your posts, I believe your "r3v weenie" comment truly describes yourself perfectly: one who has no fucking clue about what they're talking about, yet thinks they actually know something stretched from the pathetic experience that doesn't even apply to the situation. Let's see, this thread is about running a 235/40 on a 17x7.5, raise your hand if you've done it.. :finger: I've also fit 235/40 on a 17x8.5 (as pictured in sig below) and now I'm on 245/35 on a 17x8.5.

Let me guess, I was dead on with the age guess...Grow the fuck up and realize you don't know shit.

[bmwdude]

Like I said before. You love to take things out of context. I'll have to be honest, that it's hard for me to concentrate and type correctly on my laptop, as I try to watch a movie on tv at the same time. But for what it's worth, I'll write it again. You CANNOT install a 225-45-16 on a 9 incher. You can if it is a 225-40-16. Trust me I know. I have this setup. I've tried it. I'm not going to bother with this anymore. You are the classic r3v weenie. Lots of people love this site and so do I, but for some weird reason....anyways, it's not worth my time........

I can't help but noticing here that you mention that I'm someone from Canada, and we are worthless. Oh well, I'm sure the rest of the planet will have a good laugh at that one. How does it feel to be isolated in virtually everything? Remember, you started that. In true consistent fashion.

Make sure you note that I mention Canadian E30 Owners, not canadians. And I'm sure to mention the only 2 Canadian e30 owners who have ever demonstrated that they have technical knowledge and are intelligent that I've come in contact with.

Next, read my post above dumbass. 225/45R16 fits easily on a 16x9 and guess what, a 235/40R17 fits super easy on a 17x7.5 As a matter of fact, its much easier to fit a 235/40R17 on a NOT RECOMENDED 17x7.5 wheel than it is to stretch your useless 225/40R16 on a 16x9.

Again, I've stayed in context, and judged you based on your extremely poor technical knowledge and lack of any rationality or intelligence.

Again, reread your posts, I believe your "r3v weenie" comment truly describes yourself perfectly: one who has no fucking clue about what they're talking about, yet thinks they actually know something stretched from the pathetic experience that doesn't even apply to the situation. Let's see, this thread is about running a 235/40 on a 17x7.5, raise your hand if you've done it.. :finger: I've also fit 235/40 on a 17x8.5 (as pictured in sig below) and now I'm on 245/35 on a 17x8.5.

Let me guess, I was dead on with the age guess...Grow the fuck up and realize you don't know shit.

Yes I read your post carefully and.....NO, NO and again NO! A 225-45-16 DOES NOT fit easily on a 16X9 inch, and if you owned one you would know this. A 225-40-16 will fit. Call your local tire rep tomorrow and ask.

[C ///M]

Wow...this kid has got to be an idiot..

[bmwdude]

Do you have a complex of some sort?

I'd really like to help you out actually. You need to relax.

[C ///M]

Do you have a complex of some sort?

I'd really like to help you out actually. You need to relax.

Yes, I try and stop the massive spread of misinformation over e30 forums that people like you cause so that e30 owners aren't portrayed, for the most part, by kids who think they know something and make everyone look bad.

You want to help? Don't post misinformation and read the topic at hand. Go back and read the very first post in this thread and rethink if you should have even replied at all. Then read my first post and notice your childish, irrelevant, unwarranted, and completely unhelpful response.

[bmwdude]

Do you have a complex of some sort?

I'd really like to help you out actually. You need to relax.

Yes, I try and stop the massive spread of misinformation over e30 forums that people like you cause so that e30 owners aren't portrayed, for the most part, by kids who think they know something and make everyone look bad.

You want to help? Don't post misinformation and read the topic at hand. Go back and read the very first post in this thread and rethink if you should have even replied at all. Then read my first post and notice your childish, irrelevant, unwarranted, and completely unhelpful response.

Throwing a tantrum again aren't we? I don't regret any replys at all my little arrogant, narrow minded, friend. It is you that should get lost, and quit trying to act smart. It is pests like you that misinform the public. You really do strike me as someone who likes attention though. Hence the tantrums.

[C ///M]

You have no idea what I'm saying, or how I'm saying it, do you? Listen to yourself. Everything you say directly describes the way you've conducted yourself in this thread.

I am curious, how old are you?

[bmwdude]

I take my car seriously, and therfore info on the net pertaining to my car seriously, but everything else as entertainment. I do wonder sometimes though, actually my curiosity just kills me, what do some of those weirdo's really look like behind their screens. I won't give you my age kangaroo guy. My mommy always did tell me not to talk with strangers online......

[C ///M]

Because giving me your age will allow me to come to canada and stalk you.. :shock: Atleast you didnt lie about it

Also out of curiousity, aren't you the same guy from a little bit ago that thought negative camber influenced how much wheel and tire clearance you have from the strut assembly up front...yea, that was you. I'm glad you offered your technical knowledge in this thread.

I'm going to sleep, you have a pleasant evening, pretty sure this thread ended a page and a half ago.