Wheels falling off...help

[tomwas]

Got these from my neighbors 90's Civic, 17 in Konigs with 225 40 mismatched rubber.... Went down the road to try them out after swapping them on and started getting serious looseness and got back home to check it out and ended up with 1 lug out of the 4 left holding the left front rim on (just barely)..... one lug got stripped, retightened all 4 wheels as they all got loose, took it less than 1/4 mile down the road and could hear and feel them loosening again, I used my stock BMW lugs and no spacers, what do I need to do to get them to stay on the car.... Thanks

[ak-]

A protein shake.

[_r2h]

What are you torquing them to? needs to be 85-90'ish lb/ft I believe.

[Nsquared97]

Are those even hubcentric/do you have hubcentric rings? Most Honda 4-lugs are 56.1mm centerbore, E30 is 57.1mm. And are the OEM lug bolts long enough? Could be that the wheel is too thick and you not getting enough threads into the hub.

[e30leigh]

Are those even hubcentric/do you have hubcentric rings? Most Honda 4-lugs are 56.1mm centerbore, E30 is 57.1mm. And are the OEM lug bolts long enough? Could be that the wheel is too thick and you not getting enough threads into the hub.

if what is being said here is true. the wheels wont go hard back to the hub. this is seriously poor if youve missed that. and the wheels would wooble all over the show and come off in spectacular style. besides. if they off a honda they are tainted haha

[Vivek]

A protein shake.

[lolcantturn]

It's your E30 telling you those wheels look like ass.

[tomwas]

What are you torquing them to? needs to be 85-90'ish lb/ft I believe.

Had not torqued them will give that a try...

Are those even hubcentric/do you have hubcentric rings? Most Honda 4-lugs are 56.1mm centerbore, E30 is 57.1mm. And are the OEM lug bolts long enough? Could be that the wheel is too thick and you not getting enough threads into the hub.

Lugs seem to go in their full depth, the wheel is not too thick at the hub...

if what is being said here is true. the wheels wont go hard back to the hub. this is seriously poor if youve missed that. and the wheels would wooble all over the show and come off in spectacular style. besides. if they off a honda they are tainted haha

They seem to go hard back...

It's your E30 telling you those wheels look like ass.

I thought they looked decent, especially for $125 bucks, plus they are giving me another full set of tires for them....

[defaultName]

I thought they looked decent

You thought wrong.

They really do not suit the car at all. Especially at stock ride height.

You should seriously just try to get some 14" or 15" iX weaves if you are on a budget. They would look much nicer.

You car looks pretty clean. It deserves nicer wheels.

[tomwas]

I tightened them with my torque wrench and they are secure now, thanks to those that know how to offer assistance with out being an ass....^^

[gp.plus]

Oem lugs generally have a different taper than aftermarket wheels. Determine if your lugs are conical or ball, and then check the wheel, your most likely mismatched and the wheels will possibly work themselves loose again.

[PeteD]

You should recheck them after a ride. It sounds like you might need hub center rings, even with the recent torqued bolts.

Here is a good way to check: if you can put your rim on your hub (lugbolts removed) and wiggle your rim, even a little bit, then you need a centering ring. Any amount of play will eventually walk the lugbolts right out.

Also, make sure you are using the proper lugbolts with the appropriate taper.

[tomwas]

Oem lugs generally have a different taper than aftermarket wheels. Determine if your lugs are conical or ball, and then check the wheel, your most likely mismatched and the wheels will possibly work themselves loose again.

You should recheck them after a ride. It sounds like you might need hub center rings, even with the recent torqued bolts.
Think they are both conical but not 100%, will verify that...
Here is a good way to check: if you can put your rim on your hub (lugbolts removed) and wiggle your rim, even a little bit, then you need a centering ring. Any amount of play will eventually walk the lugbolts right out.

Also, make sure you are using the proper lugbolts with the appropriate taper.

No, they are not hub centric for sure, didn't realize this may walk them off again.... Thank you both for that info, much appreciated...

[ANDRÜ]

Ugly

[tomwas]

Ugly

Thank you.